Why are Lexus vehicles so shiny?
10-27-07, 12:43 AM
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I vaguely remember reading that the black paint on the SC430 is single stage (no clearcoat). Somebody said black looks best in single stage paint. 
Is this true?
Lexus paint is very shiny but I just wish it was as durable as MB. From what I've seen on a 2001 S500, the paint is bulletproof! 80k miles and there are no rock chips on the front bumper.
I had my black IS250 for 2 weeks now and I have 3 rock chips...
Is this true?Lexus paint is very shiny but I just wish it was as durable as MB. From what I've seen on a 2001 S500, the paint is bulletproof! 80k miles and there are no rock chips on the front bumper.
I had my black IS250 for 2 weeks now and I have 3 rock chips...
back in 01 or before, i believe some of the black onyx they are single stage, but after that i think all black paint on lexus have clear coat
10-27-07, 02:02 PM
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I vaguely remember reading that the black paint on the SC430 is single stage (no clearcoat). Somebody said black looks best in single stage paint. Is this true?
Lexus paint is very shiny but I just wish it was as durable as MB. From what I've seen on a 2001 S500, the paint is bulletproof! 80k miles and there are no rock chips on the front bumper.
I had my black IS250 for 2 weeks now and I have 3 rock chips...
Is this true?Lexus paint is very shiny but I just wish it was as durable as MB. From what I've seen on a 2001 S500, the paint is bulletproof! 80k miles and there are no rock chips on the front bumper.
I had my black IS250 for 2 weeks now and I have 3 rock chips...
A sexy one at that.
12-18-07, 10:28 AM
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They're identical. I'd give a $50 to anyone that could find the difference. I will give it to Lexus, when they want uniformity, they get it.
They know and they don't care. Nissan/Infiniti paint is among the worst in the industry on almost all accounts. They claim it is due to environmental restrictions, but that is a copout; Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura both manage to have superior paint, as do every German and almost every US manufacturer. Black Infiniti paint in particular is notorious amongst detailers.
They know and they don't care. Nissan/Infiniti paint is among the worst in the industry on almost all accounts. They claim it is due to environmental restrictions, but that is a copout; Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura both manage to have superior paint, as do every German and almost every US manufacturer. Black Infiniti paint in particular is notorious amongst detailers.
Where are you getting your information? There are a lot of flaws in it.
People, lets keep in mind there are really only 3 or 4 big paint makers in the world. PPG and DuPont supply almost every car maker.
Oh yeah,
please tell me more about how MB paint is waterborne or ceramic, this will be interesting.
Last edited by AlBoston; 12-18-07 at 10:34 AM.
12-18-07, 05:25 PM
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I think he means water-based.
MB has this new nano-technology thing in their paints (the newer models) that resist chipping and scratches. It also makes their cars really shiny, at least that's what I've noticed in the new crop of MB models (basically those after 2005 even if it's an older model like a C-Class).
MB has this new nano-technology thing in their paints (the newer models) that resist chipping and scratches. It also makes their cars really shiny, at least that's what I've noticed in the new crop of MB models (basically those after 2005 even if it's an older model like a C-Class).
12-18-07, 10:35 PM
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You can send me 50 bucks.
Where are you getting your information? There are a lot of flaws in it.
People, lets keep in mind there are really only 3 or 4 big paint makers in the world. PPG and DuPont supply almost every car maker.
Oh yeah,
please tell me more about how MB paint is waterborne or ceramic, this will be interesting.
Where are you getting your information? There are a lot of flaws in it.
People, lets keep in mind there are really only 3 or 4 big paint makers in the world. PPG and DuPont supply almost every car maker.
Oh yeah,
please tell me more about how MB paint is waterborne or ceramic, this will be interesting.
Seeing if I knew? That's clever. All I can say is if you have more experience working with automotive paint than I do, hats off to you.
Last edited by picus; 12-18-07 at 10:41 PM.
12-19-07, 09:06 AM
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There may be only a few paint suppliers, but the car companies themselves provides the spec. If Nissan provides a crappy spec, dupont/ppg/etc will provide crappy paint. Picus is right, Nissan's way of implementing the paint is why the paint doesn't look as great compared to Lexus/Toyota or Honda/Acura. There is no flaw in his information at all. Nissan's excuse is poor at best.
I really hate detailing black infiniti's. They look okay after you're done but man the shine fades so quickly.
I really hate detailing black infiniti's. They look okay after you're done but man the shine fades so quickly.
12-19-07, 05:39 PM
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My IS is really shiny... crazy shine. But they must not have done a good job inspecting my car when it was shipped out because i found a flaw in the silver paint under the clearcoat.
I know the older SC400/SC300 didn't have a clearcoat on black but I thought they changed that with the SC430.
I know the older SC400/SC300 didn't have a clearcoat on black but I thought they changed that with the SC430.
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