2009 Infiniti FX37 and FX50
11-01-07, 08:28 AM
#32
Pole Position
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's funny you mention that. I actually spoke with my Amsoil dealer awhile back and asked him about their tranny fluid. He didn't fully recommend it, because he said Toyota uses a special blend and it may not be compatible with their trannys. I was going to do it anyway, but after already having a failed tranny and problems on 2 of my other Lexus's, I got concerned and decided against it. But it works good, eh? I may have to try it afterall.
11-01-07, 09:38 AM
#34
It's funny you mention that. I actually spoke with my Amsoil dealer awhile back and asked him about their tranny fluid. He didn't fully recommend it, because he said Toyota uses a special blend and it may not be compatible with their trannys. I was going to do it anyway, but after already having a failed tranny and problems on 2 of my other Lexus's, I got concerned and decided against it. But it works good, eh? I may have to try it afterall.
Amsoil fluid was approved by Toyota a few years ago. It's okay to use it in your transmission. In fact, it holds up to heat a lot better than the Toyota stuff.
I used Amsoil before but I found myself not using it any more because the stuff is pretty expensive. My clutch pack in the transmission was shuddering and shifts were still pretty rough, even with the amsoil in it. But this was MUCH better than when I first got my car. The amsoil definitely helped, but it wasn't until I went back to Toyota T-IV and added a bottle of lubegard red that all my shifting and clutchpack problems went away. Now it shifts like butter
11-01-07, 12:48 PM
#35
Lexus Fanatic
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: A better place
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I don't see what the HUGE deal is about a 390HP 5L V8. Plus, even if the FX and M get this new engine it's not going to be cheap. An FX or M with the 5.0L will have an MSRP of 50K and up. An IS-F will only be a few grand more. And Lexus *already* has a 5.0L V8 of it's own. Detuned, it already makes 389HP in the LS hybrid, and 416HP tuned in the IS-F. Lexus can easily add the 5.0L V8 to some of it's other models if it wants.
What will be interesting is the kind of the fuel economy this Infiniti 5.0L will get while making that much power. We already know the Lexus 5.0L is very fuel efficient. Even the tuned version in the IS-F manages about 16mpg in real-world driving based on several of the IS-F reviews so far.
What will be interesting is the kind of the fuel economy this Infiniti 5.0L will get while making that much power. We already know the Lexus 5.0L is very fuel efficient. Even the tuned version in the IS-F manages about 16mpg in real-world driving based on several of the IS-F reviews so far.
11-01-07, 12:58 PM
#36
Lead Lap
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
5.0L V8 isn't a huge deal, not because Lexus has/will have it in a couple of niche products, but because Mercedes already has a torquey 5.5L V8 in a wide range of vehicles, including the E, S, CLK, CL, SL, CLS, ML, and GL.
11-01-07, 01:06 PM
#37
It's a big deal (esp. for the GS) because it'll have substantionally more power than the GS460. I highly doubt Lexus will introduce the 5.0L into the GS since the GS460 barely came out. It doesn't make sense for them to drop in the 5.0L all of the sudden. Lexus can put the 5.0L and call it a GS-F, but then it'll be competing with the BMW M5 and Mercedes E63, not the "M50" because the M will be a regular package.
The current FX45/M45 already has an MSRP of $50k. A new engine doesn't necessarily mean it's going to cost more. The upcoming GS460 MSRP is said to be virtually the same as the GS430 it's replacing. My take on this? The M50 will still cost less than the GS460.
The current FX45/M45 already has an MSRP of $50k. A new engine doesn't necessarily mean it's going to cost more. The upcoming GS460 MSRP is said to be virtually the same as the GS430 it's replacing. My take on this? The M50 will still cost less than the GS460.
11-01-07, 01:08 PM
#38
Lexus Fanatic
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: A better place
Posts: 7,285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Again, HP by itself doesn't mean much. We'll have to wait until we get full details before jumping to conclusions. The Benz 5.5L V8 brings huge torque to the table. The Lexus 5.0L brings exemplary fuel economy. We'll have to wait and see what (if anything) unique attrubutes the Infiniti 5.0L V8 will bring.
It's a big deal (esp. for the GS) because it'll have substantionally more power than the GS460. I highly doubt Lexus will introduce the 5.0L into the GS since the GS460 barely came out. It doesn't make sense for them to drop in the 5.0L all of the sudden. Lexus can put the 5.0L and call it a GS-F, but then it'll be competing with the BMW M5 and Mercedes E63, not the "M50" because the M will be a regular package.
The current FX45/M45 already has an MSRP of $50k. A new engine doesn't necessarily mean it's going to cost more. The upcoming GS460 MSRP is said to be virtually the same as the GS430 it's replacing. My take on this? The M50 will still cost less than the GS460.
The current FX45/M45 already has an MSRP of $50k. A new engine doesn't necessarily mean it's going to cost more. The upcoming GS460 MSRP is said to be virtually the same as the GS430 it's replacing. My take on this? The M50 will still cost less than the GS460.
But let's stop talking about the GS for a minute. As a WHOLE, are you willing to argue that Infinit's 5.0L is a BIG deal? We don't even know if the M will get the engine, or how much power it will make. It's just rumours and guesses right now. The next-gen M doesn't come to market until 2010-2011. The next-gen GS comes around 2011-2012.
Just as many of you are guessing the M will get the 5.0L V8 with 390HP or more, I can guess than the next-gen GS will get a 5.0L V8 making 400HP or more.
Last edited by TRDFantasy; 11-01-07 at 01:12 PM.
11-01-07, 01:32 PM
#39
I still think it's a big deal. It just shows how late Lexus brought in the 4.6L when most of their competitors are bringing in 5.0L+.
The current M45 is using the carried-over 4.5L from the previous generation. I highly doubt they will run the same engine for 2 straight generations, especially since the GS460 will over an advantage over the M45. If Lexus can upgrade the 4.3L to the 4.6L after 2 years into the generation, I think Infiniti can do the same.
We all know that Nissan/Infiniti share many parts within the model lineup as a cost-cutting procedure, so I would not be surprised if the 5.0L makes it into the M. How much power will it deliver? Who knows, but all I know is that engine wont be producing anything less than 375hp.
The current M45 is using the carried-over 4.5L from the previous generation. I highly doubt they will run the same engine for 2 straight generations, especially since the GS460 will over an advantage over the M45. If Lexus can upgrade the 4.3L to the 4.6L after 2 years into the generation, I think Infiniti can do the same.
We all know that Nissan/Infiniti share many parts within the model lineup as a cost-cutting procedure, so I would not be surprised if the 5.0L makes it into the M. How much power will it deliver? Who knows, but all I know is that engine wont be producing anything less than 375hp.
11-01-07, 02:08 PM
#40
Pole Position
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 244
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I still think it's a big deal. It just shows how late Lexus brought in the 4.6L when most of their competitors are bringing in 5.0L+.
The current M45 is using the carried-over 4.5L from the previous generation. I highly doubt they will run the same engine for 2 straight generations, especially since the GS460 will over an advantage over the M45. If Lexus can upgrade the 4.3L to the 4.6L after 2 years into the generation, I think Infiniti can do the same.
We all know that Nissan/Infiniti share many parts within the model lineup as a cost-cutting procedure, so I would not be surprised if the 5.0L makes it into the M. How much power will it deliver? Who knows, but all I know is that engine wont be producing anything less than 375hp.
The current M45 is using the carried-over 4.5L from the previous generation. I highly doubt they will run the same engine for 2 straight generations, especially since the GS460 will over an advantage over the M45. If Lexus can upgrade the 4.3L to the 4.6L after 2 years into the generation, I think Infiniti can do the same.
We all know that Nissan/Infiniti share many parts within the model lineup as a cost-cutting procedure, so I would not be surprised if the 5.0L makes it into the M. How much power will it deliver? Who knows, but all I know is that engine wont be producing anything less than 375hp.
11-01-07, 02:15 PM
#41
Isn't that right there part of what makes this significant? If they dont push with a larger engine, making more h/p in a mass produced car, maybe Lexus and others would also not pursue anything bigger/better. IMO anytime you see something like this (assuming it's in the same segment and the cars are comparable), from any other manufacturer, it's significant.
11-01-07, 02:27 PM
#42
Lexus Test Driver
Its common knowledge that the 5.0L will be out for the M series for the next generation (at least in Infiniti circles). The next big question is what type of tranny will it have. Now that Nissan has a DSG type tranny that can handle large torque loads (all hail the GTR) will they put this bad boy in all of their cars
06-05-08, 11:10 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Pricing
When the new second-generation Infiniti FX goes on sale on June 24, it'll start at a price tag of $40,950. That's for a base, rear-drive FX35. All-wheel drive models will start at $42,350, while upgrading from there to the scary-fast 390-hp V-8-equipped will cost a less manageable $56,700. Still, that means that the buy-in for the sleek FX will be almost $12,00 lower than the new BMW X6 with which it most closely competes, while the V-8 costs just $4000 more than the cheapest X6. For further comparison, a Porsche Cayenne S starts at $57,900. The FX is priced to fight the best, but Infiniti's got too hope record gas prices won't deter its wealthy consumer base.
When the new second-generation Infiniti FX goes on sale on June 24, it'll start at a price tag of $40,950. That's for a base, rear-drive FX35. All-wheel drive models will start at $42,350, while upgrading from there to the scary-fast 390-hp V-8-equipped will cost a less manageable $56,700. Still, that means that the buy-in for the sleek FX will be almost $12,00 lower than the new BMW X6 with which it most closely competes, while the V-8 costs just $4000 more than the cheapest X6. For further comparison, a Porsche Cayenne S starts at $57,900. The FX is priced to fight the best, but Infiniti's got too hope record gas prices won't deter its wealthy consumer base.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
