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Old 11-14-07, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UberNoob
looks kinda short for a full size luxury sedan
doesnt it?
it has the sexy proportions of a Corolla.


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Old 11-14-07, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
If the ES 350, GS, E, 5, G35, TL, CTS, IS didn't exist, I'd get this.....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

...and if you're looking for a cheaper quattroporte, here ya go!
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Old 11-14-07, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ecr527
Is this a totally new platform for Lincoln? All the other Lincolns are just fords with different grills and badges. Motor Trend said it best "Lincoln has become just a Ford trim level"
Then what can describe Mercury??
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Old 11-14-07, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, not quite. Most American-designed V8's today run at least 300 HP and 300 ft-lbs. of torque. (Some foreign-nameplate V8s run more HP and less torque).

What this engine really is reminiscent of, more or less, is the 3.5L V6 in the Acura RL.........a setup where that engine powers the RL so well, even with the weight and drag of AWD, that, IMO, it doesn't NEED a V8.
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I think you have misread the press release. The standard 3.7L is not the engine Lincoln is referring to when it talks about V8 power with V6 fuel efficiency. Lincoln is referring to the twin-force engine that is still in the works. Think turbo, DI and V6.

From the press release:
Smooth Power: Fuel-efficient V-6 today; V-8 power with V-6 efficiency tomorrow

The Lincoln MKS is powered by a Lincoln exclusive new 3.7-liter V-6 engine. The powertrain has been derived from the proven 3.5-liter V-6 found in the Lincoln MKX, which was voted one of Ward’s 10-Best Engines for 2007.

Both engines share the same strong, die-cast aluminum block and lightweight four-valve heads for smooth operation at high RPMs. The 3.7-liter’s larger cylinders contribute to the increase in horsepower and torque. This engine delivers 270 horsepower and 265 lb.-ft. of torque and is mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission with SelectShift that delivers smoother shifts, better fuel economy, acceleration and the option to manually select gears.

“This engine is tuned to maximize the increased torque to improve performance where it’s needed most – standing acceleration and passing,” says Michael Celentino, chief engineer.

Less than a year after launch, the Lincoln MKS will be the first vehicle to offer Ford’s new gasoline turbo direct injection engine technology.

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Old 11-14-07, 05:26 PM
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^^ Yep. I was just going to address that. I cant wait to see what they have planned for this new range of turboed V6 and V8 models.
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Old 11-14-07, 08:40 PM
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Great!!!....Mazda 6 with a really nice fancy tie!...
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Old 11-15-07, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RX300-BV
mmarshall and spwolf,

I think you have misread the press release. The standard 3.7L is not the engine Lincoln is referring to when it talks about V8 power with V6 fuel efficiency. Lincoln is referring to the twin-force engine that is still in the works. Think turbo, DI and V6.


OK, maybe so. Anyhow, I've got this car on my review list, and when it becomes available, I'll check it out..........including the engine, of course.

I have a very high opinion of the Ford Five Hundred/Taurus and Mercury Montego/Sable, so I'm certainly not going to miss the Lincoln version of it.
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Old 11-15-07, 10:18 AM
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lmao
this car copied a bad part of maserati quatroportte
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Old 11-15-07, 05:30 PM
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One interesting feature on the new Lincoln MKS, besides the 'invisible keypad,' is the parking assist sensors which reportedly can also warn of the height of parking blocks (at the front of parking spaces), thus preventing lower bumper scrapes!
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Old 06-05-08, 11:45 PM
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ive/index.html

Edmunds First Drive: 2009 Lincoln MKS

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The Price of Greatness?

When we looked at the information sheet supplied with our 2009 Lincoln MKS test car, we inadvertently blurted, "Holy *&@%! This is a more-than-$46,000 car." The engineer riding in the backseat said flatly, "Yes. It is."

Be a little more judicious with the options sheet and you could get into an MKS in the low $40Ks. (The all-wheel-drive model starts at $40,355 including the $800 destination charge.)

The trouble is, there are a lot of fine vehicles on the market for $46,000 from premium makers that don't carry the baggage Lincoln has saddled itself with. Of course, they're not likely to be as large or carry as many gadgets.

http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...el..1.*


2009 Lincoln MKS AWD
BASE PRICE $39,555 (est)
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, AWD 5-pass, 5-door, sedan
ENGINE 3.7L/273-hp/270-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve V-6
TRANSMISSION 6-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT 4276 lb (mfr)
WHEELBASE 119.9 in

LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 204.1 x 75.9 x 61.6 in
0-60 MPH 7.9sec (MT est)
EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON 16/23 mpg

CO2 EMISSIONS 1.05 lb/mile
ON SALE IN U.S. Summer 2008
 
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You have got to be joking, Lincoln!! It's the year 2009 and you're still using keypad entry?? Are you serious?? I don't care what kind of technology it uses. A KEYPAD ENTRY??
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
You have got to be joking, Lincoln!! It's the year 2009 and you're still using keypad entry?? Are you serious?? I don't care what kind of technology it uses. A KEYPAD ENTRY??
I know what you mean - I'm sure I had that on a Mercury Cougar in the 80s. It was a pain then and I can't see myself entering 5 digits just to get into this. It's also incredibly bland and instantly forgetable amongst a number of similar saloons.
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whys it so expensive, lame
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
You have got to be joking, Lincoln!! It's the year 2009 and you're still using keypad entry?? Are you serious?? I don't care what kind of technology it uses. A KEYPAD ENTRY??
Well, I absolutely love the keypad on my Explorer. I DON'T have to carry ANY damn key/fob/etc. with me.

So while we're talking about technology...

How's that factory ipod integration working for ya?
Or hard drive recording? Or many other cool features on Ford/Lincoln's Sync system you don't have?
How about that cassette player still on the 3rd gen GS?

From the MT review:
Sync, the connectivity system developed in concert with Microsoft, is standard, and allows hands free operation of just about any iPod-like music device and Bluetooth enable cellphone on the market. The optional nav system may be the best on the market. It places an 8-inch, VGA quality, high res screen high on the center stack, where it is easily seen and accessed. ...

You can also opt for Sirius sat radio, plus a new suite of services called Siruis Travel Link. Travel link includes real time traffic information, fuel price guidance (find the cheapest gas in town, then press a button to have the system take you there), national weather information (including advance forecasting), sports score information, and movie listings.

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Old 06-06-08, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
whys it so expensive, lame
This car competes with a GS. GS350AWD base price is $46,500. Add nav/ml and you're over $50K.
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