Older Vehicle Buyers Are Less Likely to Consider Import Brands, Younger Buyers . . .
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Go sit in each one at the next local car show (not just looking at pix). Which one has better materials? Switchgear that feels better? Nicely dampered parts? More intuitive controls? (has GM eliminated that cruise control/wiper/washer/turn signal stalk yet?). Feel the leather and plastic. THEN decide which has a "nicer" interior.
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Go sit in each one at the next local car show (not just looking at pix). Which one has better materials? Switchgear that feels better? Nicely dampered parts? More intuitive controls? (has GM eliminated that cruise control/wiper/washer/turn signal stalk yet?). Feel the leather and plastic. THEN decide which has a "nicer" interior.
In most cases, the foreign-nameplate vehicles will have better interior quality, although that, to some extent, is starting to change.
Still, for sheer material quality of the interior parts, precision assembly, and fit/finish, the Acura RL has one of the best interiors I've ever seen among mass-produced cars. Almost everything on that car looks and feels like it was crafted by Swiss-Watch makers......even the I-Drive-like controller **** I dislike.
The Lexus LS460's interior is also extremely well-crafted, but looks and has a slightly more plasticky feel than the RL. The VW Phaeton had another interior fit for a king (even more so than its brother Audi A8), but the Phaeton has been pulled from the U.S. market.
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The Northeast and West simply share a similar perspective or way of thinking.
We're very liberal (
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As others have said, you should sit in both and drive them. Also first impression is not always best. Though I can agree with you on the fact that the Impala you showed in the picture does look better than the Camry, however I would like to see real shots and feel the material before passing judgment. I rode in my friends Sable, and I'm sorry but the plastics in there feel incredibly cheap. I was worried about being a little rough with it, because i was afraid of breaking it. Take that Camry and Malibu in 10 years after normal wear and tell me which one looks better. If USDM automotives are stepping up with quality then good for them, it's about time they did so.
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Let's not mix up quality with fit and finish.
I had a Cobalt Coupe 1LT as a rental during my week in Cali. Drove it 2,700 miles. The fit and finish on that car is amazing and definitely not what I expect from a domestic. However, the plastics are just crap. Yes they fit well, there's no uneveness but it's all hard "scratchy" plastic on the dash and door. The door panel fabric feels cheap. The radio buttons feel solid though.
So GM is halfway there with the Cobalt's interior. The rest of the car is just fine. I loved the suspension and the engine. The steering could be more weighted on the highway. Oh and it's very quiet... even at illegal speeds.
I had a Cobalt Coupe 1LT as a rental during my week in Cali. Drove it 2,700 miles. The fit and finish on that car is amazing and definitely not what I expect from a domestic. However, the plastics are just crap. Yes they fit well, there's no uneveness but it's all hard "scratchy" plastic on the dash and door. The door panel fabric feels cheap. The radio buttons feel solid though.
So GM is halfway there with the Cobalt's interior. The rest of the car is just fine. I loved the suspension and the engine. The steering could be more weighted on the highway. Oh and it's very quiet... even at illegal speeds.
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My parents are now in their late 60s and were born into families who
drove nothing but American cars. Dad is an Engineer, and when the
import cars started arriving in the late 60s it was obvious to him
that there were different and better alternatives out there.
In the 70s we had Fiats (fun to drive, I still own one!), the 80s we
had Toyotas ('84 Van Wagon '85 MR2), and since the
mid-90s mom & dad have been pretty diehard Honda owners
(including an '94 Accord, '03 Accord, and NSX today!).
The American cars ARE getting better, but the damage has been
done; I don't see Dad ever switching back!
When I bought my GS, I wanted a V8, rear-wheel drive car.
The American offerings were the Impala SS (was already
discontinued) and the Crown Vic - yeah, I want to drive
a cop car! The US made options today aren't much better, but
the Pontiac G8 shows some promise...
drove nothing but American cars. Dad is an Engineer, and when the
import cars started arriving in the late 60s it was obvious to him
that there were different and better alternatives out there.
In the 70s we had Fiats (fun to drive, I still own one!), the 80s we
had Toyotas ('84 Van Wagon '85 MR2), and since the
mid-90s mom & dad have been pretty diehard Honda owners
(including an '94 Accord, '03 Accord, and NSX today!).
The American cars ARE getting better, but the damage has been
done; I don't see Dad ever switching back!
When I bought my GS, I wanted a V8, rear-wheel drive car.
The American offerings were the Impala SS (was already
discontinued) and the Crown Vic - yeah, I want to drive
a cop car! The US made options today aren't much better, but
the Pontiac G8 shows some promise...
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Neither picture is doctored up, that is the real Malibu interior. You are right, though, pictures can be deceiving because you can't get up close and feel the leather, plastics, and workmanship. Start pushing and pulling on those door panels and see how sturdy they feel or flip the sun visors up and down a few times and see how solid they are. Is the quality of the Malibu interior better than the Camry? I don't know, but you should be aware that GM' number one goal was to make the Malibu world class in quality, fit and finish. the new Malibu is supposed to be one of the highest quality fit and finish cars that GM has ever produced. Let's hope they're onto something.
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Let's not mix up quality with fit and finish.
I had a Cobalt Coupe 1LT as a rental during my week in Cali. Drove it 2,700 miles. The fit and finish on that car is amazing and definitely not what I expect from a domestic. However, the plastics are just crap. Yes they fit well, there's no uneveness but it's all hard "scratchy" plastic on the dash and door. The door panel fabric feels cheap. The radio buttons feel solid though.
So GM is halfway there with the Cobalt's interior. The rest of the car is just fine. I loved the suspension and the engine. The steering could be more weighted on the highway. Oh and it's very quiet... even at illegal speeds.
I had a Cobalt Coupe 1LT as a rental during my week in Cali. Drove it 2,700 miles. The fit and finish on that car is amazing and definitely not what I expect from a domestic. However, the plastics are just crap. Yes they fit well, there's no uneveness but it's all hard "scratchy" plastic on the dash and door. The door panel fabric feels cheap. The radio buttons feel solid though.
So GM is halfway there with the Cobalt's interior. The rest of the car is just fine. I loved the suspension and the engine. The steering could be more weighted on the highway. Oh and it's very quiet... even at illegal speeds.
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Hmm I've only sat in the new CTS' once at a mall. I remember the front passenger area being a bit tight (legroom?) but the materials seem better and don't have that "high school" dashboard found on the Escalade. Out of the 3 new cars - the CTS, Malibu and Aura, the CTS probably has the best chance to showcase GM's new quality focus. The Aura I sat in didn't impress me to be honest. Looking forward to sitting in the Malibu (probably at the auto show).
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