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Old 12-02-07 | 10:23 AM
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Angry I BEEN SCAMMED SELLING MY OWN CAR I AM NOW OUT OF ALOT OF MONEY PLEASE HELP Me !!!!!!

So I sold my 06 IS350 like two weeks ago for 28K. The buyer came from Chicago to purchase my car and drive it back. He ask me to write on the title I am giving it to him as a gift so he doesnt have to pay taxes in Illinois. I told him I couldnt do that. He mentioned Illinois tax is 6%. So he asked can I write the Bill of Sale at 21K. I told him I could do that. So when he came to Boston, he gaved me a Bank of America Certified check for 21K. And gave me a Pentagon Federal Credit Union Loan check for 7K. So I gave him the car signed the title to him, and a Bill of Sale for 21K bc he wanted to save on taxes. Now I get a notice from my bank that the PFCU loan check he gave me it bounced, a stop payment was issued on it. This guy is 900 miles away and has my car, my title, and I dont have the rest of my money. I call the guy and there is no answer on his phone. I emailed him also, still no response. What can I do ? Can I take him to small claims court ? Please help me. Thanks

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Old 12-02-07 | 10:29 AM
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Anyone can help me ?
Old 12-02-07 | 10:33 AM
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This is not a small claims court issue. This is felony theft. Make a police report TODAY and secure a good lawyer asap to sort through this mess. Good luck.

Unfortunately he has a bill of sale for $24k and has paid you $24k. He will probably deny anything about the other $7k. Please get legal help now.
Old 12-02-07 | 10:34 AM
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Since it's across state lines, I'd imagine you could go straight to the FBI.
Old 12-02-07 | 10:37 AM
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He's right go to FBI, file a formal complaint. Good luck man! i can never understand people ....... they always want to give a person a 6 for a 9. Take him to the cleaners!!!!
Old 12-02-07 | 10:39 AM
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Checks need time to clear, you should have waited for it to clear before giving him the car, especially large amounts they take more time to clear than others. I would definitely contact the police and his bank to see what can be done.
Old 12-02-07 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by andsimp2
. Now I get a notice from my bank that the PFCU loan check he gave me it bounced,[/b] a stop payment was issued on it.

$24K on the bill of sale.He paid you $24K.
I think you're screwed.It's your word against him and the $24K is on the bill of sale..His check didn't bounce.He put a stop payment on it.
He can say it was a down payment that was not necessary because he paid you the whole sum of $24K.
You may have screwed yourself being nice guy putting that $24K on the bill of sale.
Old 12-02-07 | 10:42 AM
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This is messed up. Well, i talked to my friends father which is an attorney and he said that since 21K was on Bill of Sale, and the title too, he doesnt think there is anything I can do. Keep in mind he is not a criminal attorney. But then again keep in mind I did get 2 checks one for 21K and 7K, so that should be enough evidence right ?
Old 12-02-07 | 10:42 AM
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You were trying to help a crook defraud the state of IL. The only thing is he ended up taking you for $7K and the state for a mere six percent of that , but you knew he was a crook going in because he told you so through his request. You might want to omit the part about the second check being a scheme to short the state when you make your police report. Call it a $7,000 "education".

Hey, in the OP it was $24K and now it is $21K, you should figure out which one?

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Old 12-02-07 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by andsimp2
This is messed up. Well, i talked to my friends father which is an attorney and he said that since 21K was on Bill of Sale, and the title too, he doesnt think there is anything I can do. Keep in mind he is not a criminal attorney. But then again keep in mind I did get 2 checks one for 21K and 7K, so that should be enough evidence right ?
The $24K on the bill of sale and his Bank of America Certified check for $24Kwill probably kill you.
Old 12-02-07 | 10:46 AM
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$24K on the bill of sale.He paid you $24K.
Yeah, I missed that reading through it the first time. You're SOL on this. It's not even a matter of your word against his, it's your word against the bill of sale.
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This fraud is drivin around in Chicago with my Is350 which he paid dirt cheap for, and I am outta 7K.

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Old 12-02-07 | 10:47 AM
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You don't need an attorney or help from anonymous internet car club people whom you don't know - YOU NEED THE AUTHORITIES.

The guy who scammed you is most likely looooong gone, but every day, every hour, every minute that you spend on an internet car club forum is a waste of time. Right now you're pretty much giving the crook "a head start" or he might even be scamming someone else already.

I strongly urge you to file a report asap.

Good luck and please keep us posted.

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Old 12-02-07 | 10:49 AM
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haha Good thing you didnt write that it was a gift otherwise you would have been even worse off. He would have probably put a stop payment on whatever check he gave you and since you said it was a gift, you'd have to eat the gift tax too! Be (somewhat) happy you only got taken for $7k at this point!
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Originally Posted by andsimp2
This fraud is drivin around in Chicago with my Is350 which he paid dirt cheap for, and I am outta 7K.
A very expensive lesson learned.



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