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Old 12-03-07, 03:52 PM
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Just my opinion, but there are some pics of the redone exterior of the Sonata, and looks like they added a lot of chrome which might be a bit tacky. The current look seems fairly mainstream. Unless they are trying to go upscale and think that's the way to do it. Do they want to be an entry-luxury brand (Azera, Genesis) or the next Nissan?

Now is when the December holiday sales events are in full swing, we'll see if that puts an extra bump on the final year's tally. Wow...2007 went by fast!
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Originally Posted by RON430
Yeah but how many of those orphaned Q45s out there are going to be returned every month?
rofl, that doesn't even make sense. if he bought it and returned it right away, net should be 0.
That means another customer from another month returned it.
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Default GM November Sales

GM Reports 263,654 November Deliveries; Retail Car Deliveries Up
Monday December 3, 2:04 pm ET

<< - Chevrolet Malibu Retail Sales Up 40 Percent; Chevy Cars Up 15 Percent
- All-New CTS Drives 15 Percent Cadillac Car Sales Increase
- Enclave, OUTLOOK and Acadia Crossovers Post Strong Retail Sales
- Dealer Inventories Down 97,000 Vehicles Year-Over-Year
- Planned Daily Rental Sales Reduction of 28.5 Percent >>

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/071203/mi_g...ales.html?.v=1

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	                                 November                January - November
	    Curr S/D:  25                          % Chg
	    Prev S/D:  25           2007     2006 per S/D      2007       2006   %Chg
	    Vehicle Total        263,654  297,556  -11.4  3,543,167  3,783,318   -6.3
	    Car Total            105,077  109,985   -4.5  1,372,830  1,495,791   -8.2
	    Truck Total          158,577  187,571  -15.5  2,170,337  2,287,527   -5.1
	    Light Truck Total    156,196  183,573  -14.9  2,129,944  2,235,049   -4.7
	    Light Vehicle Total  261,273  293,558  -11.0  3,502,774  3,730,840   -6.1
	    

	      Market Division
	      Vehicle Total                                    Calendar Year-to-Date
	                           November                      January - November
	                                     % Chg
	                     2007      2006 per S/D        2007        2006    %Chg
	    Buick          13,245    18,089   -26.8     171,391     224,671   -23.7
	    Cadillac       17,041    17,250    -1.2     193,290     204,299    -5.4
	    Chevrolet     151,642   171,003   -11.3   2,080,015   2,221,059    -6.4
	    GMC            34,549    37,440    -7.7     460,243     439,452     4.7
	    HUMMER          4,029     5,795   -30.5      50,653      64,596   -21.6
	    Oldsmobile          0         0   ---.-           0          96   ---.-
	    Other -
	     Isuzu              0     1,138   ---.-       7,906      13,185   -40.0
	    Pontiac        26,040    26,154    -0.4     327,811     377,457   -13.2
	    Saab            2,003     2,497   -19.8      29,963      32,814    -8.7
	    Saturn         15,105    18,190   -17.0     221,895     205,689     7.9
	    

	    Sales of Vehicles Produced in US/Canada/Mexico
	    Car            98,174   103,865    -5.5   1,282,643   1,403,507    -8.6
	    Light Truck   156,196   183,573   -14.9   2,129,944   2,235,049    -4.7
	    

	    Twenty-five selling days for the November period this year and twenty-
	    five for last year.
	    

	    -  Prior to Aug '07, includes American Isuzu Motors, Inc., dealer sales of
	       commercial vehicles distributed by GM as reported to GM by American
	       Isuzu Motors, Inc.  Effective Aug '07, GM only includes GMC & Chevrolet
	       dealer sales of commercial vehicles distributed by American Isuzu
	       Motors, Inc.
	    

	                               GM Car Deliveries - (United States)
	                                          November 2007
	                                                       Calendar Year-to-Date
	                                 November                January - November
	                                           %Chg
	                            2007     2006 per S/D      2007       2006   %Chg
	      Selling Days (S/D)      25       25
	    

	    Century                    0        2  ---.-          5         82  -93.9
	    LaCrosse               3,134    5,033  -37.7     44,207     66,396  -33.4
	    LeSabre                    0       35  ---.-        121      2,280  -94.7
	    Lucerne                6,080    8,038  -24.4     77,101     90,821  -15.1
	    Park Avenue                0        3  ---.-         26         49  -46.9
	    Regal                      0        0  ---.-          0         30  ---.-
	        Buick Total        9,214   13,111  -29.7    121,460    159,658  -23.9
	    CTS                    5,586    3,601   55.1     50,252     50,024    0.5
	    DeVille                    0       21  ---.-         71        784  -90.9
	    DTS                    3,751    4,358  -13.9     47,231     53,269  -11.3
	    Seville                    0        0  ---.-          0          9  ---.-
	    STS                    1,928    1,651   16.8     18,558     23,226  -20.1
	    XLR                       97      257  -62.3      1,622      2,917  -44.4
	       Cadillac Total     11,362    9,888   14.9    117,734    130,229   -9.6
	    Aveo                   5,185    3,285   57.8     60,705     54,252   11.9
	    Cavalier                   0        9  ---.-         57        350  -83.7
	    Classic                    0        1  ---.-         17         18   -5.6
	    Cobalt                13,629   10,514   29.6    183,029    197,844   -7.5
	    Corvette               2,438    2,773  -12.1     30,771     33,437   -8.0
	    Impala                22,824   23,411   -2.5    293,328    263,708   11.2
	    Malibu                 7,210    8,240  -12.5    116,140    152,447  -23.8
	    Monte Carlo              498    2,173  -77.1     15,380     31,697  -51.5
	    SSR                        1      111  -99.1        241      3,698  -93.5
	      Chevrolet Total     51,785   50,517    2.5    699,668    737,451   -5.1
	    Alero                      0        0  ---.-          0         67  ---.-
	      Oldsmobile Total         0        0  ---.-          0         67  ---.-
	    Bonneville                 0       25  ---.-        130      1,125  -88.4
	    G5                     2,170    1,458   48.8     25,419      6,281  304.7
	    G6                    11,616   10,925    6.3    132,894    143,840   -7.6
	    Grand Am                   0       33  ---.-         99        811  -87.8
	    Grand Prix             5,743    5,635    1.9     84,123     99,937  -15.8
	    GTO                       25      735  -96.6      4,184     10,371  -59.7
	    Solstice               1,360    1,305    4.2     15,493     18,361  -15.6
	    Sunfire                    0       10  ---.-         39        846  -95.4
	    Vibe                   3,128    2,388   31.0     33,825     42,687  -20.8
	       Pontiac Total      24,042   22,514    6.8    296,206    324,259   -8.7
	    9-2X                       0       65  ---.-        118      1,358  -91.3
	    9-3                    1,432    1,623  -11.8     21,206     21,999   -3.6
	    9-5                      261      412  -36.7      3,974      4,304   -7.7
	         Saab Total        1,693    2,100  -19.4     25,298     27,661   -8.5
	    Aura                   4,158    4,279   -2.8     54,645     13,905  293.0
	    ION                    2,059    6,626  -68.9     47,197     94,880  -50.3
	    Saturn L Series            0        0  ---.-          2         20  -90.0
	    Sky                      764      950  -19.6     10,620      7,661   38.6
	        Saturn Total       6,981   11,855  -41.1    112,464    116,466   -3.4
	          GM Total       105,077  109,985   -4.5  1,372,830  1,495,791   -8.2
	                    GM Car Deliveries by Production Source
	    GM North America ^    98,174  103,865   -5.5  1,282,643  1,403,507   -8.6
	    GM Import              6,903    6,120   12.8     90,187     92,284   -2.3
	          GM Total       105,077  109,985   -4.5  1,372,830  1,495,791   -8.2
	        GM Car Deliveries by Production Source and Marketing Division
	    Buick Total            9,214   13,111  -29.7    121,460    159,658  -23.9
	    Cadillac Total        11,362    9,888   14.9    117,734    130,229   -9.6
	    Chevrolet Total       46,600   47,232   -1.3    638,963    683,199   -6.5
	    Oldsmobile Total           0        0  ---.-          0         67  ---.-
	    Pontiac Total         24,017   21,779   10.3    292,022    313,888   -7.0
	    Saturn Total           6,981   11,855  -41.1    112,464    116,466   -3.4
	         GM North
	          America Total^  98,174  103,865   -5.5  1,282,643  1,403,507   -8.6
	    Chevrolet Total        5,185    3,285   57.8     60,705     54,252   11.9
	    Pontiac Total             25      735  -96.6      4,184     10,371  -59.7
	    Saab Total             1,693    2,100  -19.4     25,298     27,661   -8.5
	         GM Import Total   6,903    6,120   12.8     90,187     92,284   -2.3
	                 GM Vehicle Deliveries by Marketing Division
	    Buick Total           13,245   18,089  -26.8    171,391    224,671  -23.7
	    Cadillac Total        17,041   17,250   -1.2    193,290    204,299   -5.4
	    Chevrolet Total      151,642  171,003  -11.3  2,080,015  2,221,059   -6.4
	    GMC Total             34,549   37,440   -7.7    460,243    439,452    4.7
	    HUMMER Total           4,029    5,795  -30.5     50,653     64,596  -21.6
	    Oldsmobile Total           0        0  ---.-          0         96  ---.-
	    Other-Isuzu Total          0    1,138  ---.-      7,906     13,185  -40.0
	    Pontiac Total         26,040   26,154   -0.4    327,811    377,457  -13.2
	    Saab Total             2,003    2,497  -19.8     29,963     32,814   -8.7
	    Saturn Total          15,105   18,190  -17.0    221,895    205,689    7.9
	         GM Total        263,654  297,556  -11.4  3,543,167  3,783,318   -6.3
	    ^ Includes US/Canada/Mexico
	    

	                           GM Truck Deliveries - (United States)
	                                          November 2007
	                                                       Calendar Year-to-Date
	                                 November                January - November
	                                           % Chg
	                            2007     2006 per S/D      2007       2006   %Chg
	      Selling Days (S/D)      25       25
	    

	    Enclave                3,834        0  ---.-     24,560          0  ---.-
	    Rainier                   51      773  -93.4      4,715     11,930  -60.5
	    Rendezvous                11    3,477  -99.7     15,258     41,853  -63.5
	    Terraza                  135      728  -81.5      5,398     11,230  -51.9
	        Total Buick        4,031    4,978  -19.0     49,931     65,013  -23.2
	    Escalade               2,525    3,416  -26.1     33,302     34,228   -2.7
	    Escalade ESV           1,202    1,624  -26.0     14,837     14,007    5.9
	    Escalade EXT             507      830  -38.9      7,357      5,928   24.1
	    SRX                    1,445    1,492   -3.2     20,060     19,907    0.8
	       Total Cadillac      5,679    7,362  -22.9     75,556     74,070    2.0
	    Astro                      0        3  ---.-         25        372  -93.3
	    C/K Suburban(Chevy)    6,033    8,277  -27.1     76,900     69,087   11.3
	    Chevy C/T Series          12       24  -50.0        253        285  -11.2
	    Chevy W Series           197      215   -8.4      2,483      2,617   -5.1
	    Colorado               5,428    6,526  -16.8     70,306     86,018  -18.3
	    Equinox                5,261    7,802  -32.6     81,848    104,710  -21.8
	    Express Cutaway/G
	     Cut                   1,709    1,445   18.3     18,355     18,367   -0.1
	    Express Panel/G Van    6,657    6,367    4.6     70,132     78,060  -10.2
	    Express/G Sportvan     1,368    1,932  -29.2     15,176     16,877  -10.1
	    HHR                    7,179    5,553   29.3     95,525     95,720   -0.2
	    Kodiak 4/5 Series        861      807    6.7      8,834     10,859  -18.6
	    Kodiak 6/7/8 Series      208      244  -14.8      2,165      3,327  -34.9
	    S/T Blazer                 0        2  ---.-          7        113  -93.8
	    S/T Pickup                 0        0  ---.-          0          4  ---.-
	    Tahoe                  9,195   13,326  -31.0    134,905    146,230   -7.7
	    Tracker                    0        0  ---.-          0         11  ---.-
	    TrailBlazer            7,794   13,946  -44.1    122,554    162,443  -24.6
	    Uplander               5,689    3,875   46.8     65,708     54,311   21.0
	    Venture                    0        2  ---.-         25        194  -87.1
	          Avalanche        4,144    5,777  -28.3     50,449     50,330    0.2
	         Silverado-C/K
	          Pickup          38,122   44,363  -14.1    564,697    583,673   -3.3
	    Chevrolet Fullsize
	     Pickups              42,266   50,140  -15.7    615,146    634,003   -3.0
	      Chevrolet Total     99,857  120,486  -17.1  1,380,347  1,483,608   -7.0
	    Acadia                 6,395        0  ---.-     65,372          0  ---.-
	    Canyon                 1,476    1,873  -21.2     19,451     21,979  -11.5
	    Envoy                  3,035    5,772  -47.4     44,649     69,276  -35.5
	    GMC C/T Series            13       22  -40.9        200        225  -11.1
	    GMC W Series             294      505  -41.8      3,818      4,946  -22.8
	    Safari (GMC)               0        0  ---.-         13         56  -76.8
	    Savana Panel/G
	     Classic               1,158    1,400  -17.3     13,759     15,917  -13.6
	    Savana Special/G Cut     212      261  -18.8      8,083      9,769  -17.3
	    Savana/Rally             191      122   56.6      1,817      2,293  -20.8
	    Sierra                13,840   15,382  -10.0    188,461    193,195   -2.5
	    Topkick 4/5 Series       362      612  -40.8      8,448      9,934  -15.0
	    Topkick 6/7/8 Series     434      431    0.7      6,286      7,100  -11.5
	    Yukon                  4,317    7,242  -40.4     58,266     64,401   -9.5
	    Yukon XL               2,822    3,818  -26.1     41,620     40,361    3.1
	         GMC Total        34,549   37,440   -7.7    460,243    439,452    4.7
	    HUMMER H1                  3       24  -87.5        122        336  -63.7
	    HUMMER H2                958    1,418  -32.4     11,281     15,445  -27.0
	    HUMMER H3              3,068    4,353  -29.5     39,250     48,815  -19.6
	        HUMMER Total       4,029    5,795  -30.5     50,653     64,596  -21.6
	    Bravada                    0        0  ---.-          0         19  ---.-
	    Silhouette                 0        0  ---.-          0         10  ---.-
	      Oldsmobile Total         0        0  ---.-          0         29  ---.-
	    Other-Isuzu F Series       0      148  ---.-      1,116      1,345  -17.0
	    Other-Isuzu H Series       0        9  ---.-         61        114  -46.5
	    Other-Isuzu N Series       0      981  ---.-      6,729     11,726  -42.6
	     Other-Isuzu Total         0    1,138  ---.-      7,906     13,185  -40.0
	    Aztek                      0        5  ---.-         25        344  -92.7
	    Montana                    0        8  ---.-         26        378  -93.1
	    Montana SV6               30      235  -87.2      1,331     12,765  -89.6
	    Torrent                1,968    3,392  -42.0     30,223     39,711  -23.9
	       Pontiac Total       1,998    3,640  -45.1     31,605     53,198  -40.6
	    9-7X                     310      397  -21.9      4,665      5,153   -9.5
	         Saab Total          310      397  -21.9      4,665      5,153   -9.5
	    Outlook                3,340        0  ---.-     31,591          0  ---.-
	    Relay                     96      527  -81.8      1,401      6,755  -79.3
	    VUE                    4,688    5,808  -19.3     76,439     82,468   -7.3
	        Saturn Total       8,124    6,335   28.2    109,431     89,223   22.6
	          GM Total       158,577  187,571  -15.5  2,170,337  2,287,527   -5.1
	                   GM TRUCK Deliveries by Production Source
	    GM North America ^   158,214  186,130  -15.0  2,159,592  2,271,320   -4.9
	    GM Import                363    1,441  -74.8     10,745     16,207  -33.7
	          GM Total       158,577  187,571  -15.5  2,170,337  2,287,527   -5.1
	             GM Light Duty Truck Deliveries by Production Source
	    GM North America ^   156,196  183,573  -14.9  2,129,944  2,235,049   -4.7
	    GM Import                  0        0  ---.-          0          0  ---.-
	          GM Total       156,196  183,573  -14.9  2,129,944  2,235,049   -4.7
	       GM TRUCK Deliveries by Production Source and Marketing Division
	    Buick Total            4,031    4,978  -19.0     49,931     65,013  -23.2
	    Cadillac Total         5,679    7,362  -22.9     75,556     74,070    2.0
	    Chevrolet Total       99,726  120,313  -17.1  1,378,608  1,481,692   -7.0
	    GMC Total             34,317   37,029   -7.3    457,368    435,487    5.0
	    HUMMER Total           4,029    5,795  -30.5     50,653     64,596  -21.6
	    Oldsmobile Total           0        0  ---.-          0         29  ---.-
	    Other-Isuzu Total          0      281  ---.-      1,775      2,859  -37.9
	    Pontiac Total          1,998    3,640  -45.1     31,605     53,198  -40.6
	    Saab Total               310      397  -21.9      4,665      5,153   -9.5
	    Saturn Total           8,124    6,335   28.2    109,431     89,223   22.6
	        GM North America
	         Total^          158,214  186,130  -15.0  2,159,592  2,271,320   -4.9
	    Chevrolet Total          131      173  -24.3      1,739      1,916   -9.2
	    GMC Total                232      411  -43.6      2,875      3,965  -27.5
	    Other-Isuzu Total          0      857  ---.-      6,131     10,326  -40.6
	        GM Import Total      363    1,441  -74.8     10,745     16,207  -33.7
	    GM Light Truck Deliveries by Production Source and Marketing Division
	    Buick Total            4,031    4,978  -19.0     49,931     65,013  -23.2
	    Cadillac Total         5,679    7,362  -22.9     75,556     74,070    2.0
	    Chevrolet Total       98,579  119,196  -17.3  1,366,612  1,466,520   -6.8
	    GMC Total             33,446   35,870   -6.8    441,491    417,247    5.8
	    HUMMER Total           4,029    5,795  -30.5     50,653     64,596  -21.6
	    Oldsmobile Total           0        0  ---.-          0         29  ---.-
	    Pontiac Total          1,998    3,640  -45.1     31,605     53,198  -40.6
	    Saab Total               310      397  -21.9      4,665      5,153   -9.5
	    Saturn Total           8,124    6,335   28.2    109,431     89,223   22.6
	        GM North America
	         Total^          156,196  183,573  -14.9  2,129,944  2,235,049   -4.7
	               GM Light Truck Deliveries by Marketing Division
	    Buick Total            4,031    4,978  -19.0     49,931     65,013  -23.2
	    Cadillac Total         5,679    7,362  -22.9     75,556     74,070    2.0
	    Chevrolet Total       98,579  119,196  -17.3  1,366,612  1,466,520   -6.8
	    GMC Total             33,446   35,870   -6.8    441,491    417,247    5.8
	    HUMMER Total           4,029    5,795  -30.5     50,653     64,596  -21.6
	    Oldsmobile Total           0        0  ---.-          0         29  ---.-
	    Pontiac Total          1,998    3,640  -45.1     31,605     53,198  -40.6
	    Saab Total               310      397  -21.9      4,665      5,153   -9.5
	    Saturn Total           8,124    6,335   28.2    109,431     89,223   22.6
	        GM Total         156,196  183,573  -14.9  2,129,944  2,235,049   -4.7
	    ^ Includes US/Canada/Mexico

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Interesting numbers, YTD U.S. sales:

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           2007       2006
Lexus      294,623    285,199 
BMW        263,596    243,487
Mercedes   225,904    219,678
Cadillac   193,290    204,299
Buick      171,391    224,671
Acura      162,522    182,167
Lincoln    121,422    107,670
Infiniti   114,383    108,034 
Volvo       96,872    107,282
Audi        85,004     78,219
Jaguar      14,161     19,130
Interesting numbers, 31,027 units separate Lexus and BMW, 30,768 separate Cadillac and Acura, and 29,359 separate Infiniti and Audi, and a lesser number with Volvo and Buick compared between them, etc. There are slightly different Volvo numbers quoted by the Volvo pr and a Ford NA one: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4715530&EDATE=

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Lexus down for the first time ever?!
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I'm pretty sure Lexus has had monthly declines before. More importantly, the numbers YTD...294,623 vs. 285,199, an increase. It's also worth noting that the larger brands usually post smaller % increases because their volumes are so large to begin with.
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Date: December 03, 2007 16:55
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A story in the December 3 issue of Automotive News alerted me to the fact that through October, the Honda Odyssey narrowly (144,718 vs 141,477) secured the #1 sales slot for minivans in the USA. This is the first time the Odyssey has taken the slot, which has been traditionally held by Chrysler's Caravan. With today's release of the November sales figures, the Odyssey has extended the lead slightly with 158,139 units compared to the Caravan's 154,824.

The Caravan was redesigned just this year, and its sales figures are well off (-21%) the pace of 2006. For 2008, the Odyssey has also gone through a very quiet mid-cycle model change, but in a waning market its sales are only off 2.7% compared to 2006.

Automotive News quotes an analyst who predicts that Chrysler will respond aggressively in December in hopes of regaining the top spot.
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rofl, that doesn't even make sense. if he bought it and returned it right away, net should be 0.
That means another customer from another month returned it.
Well I guess you know what doesn't make sense rofl. Nice spin on a negative monthly sales rofl.
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Originally Posted by LetMeShowU
*yawn*

Please, Infiniti has nothing to worry about - Infiniti is up 2.1% for november, and Audi is down 1.1%. The trend is dictating that Infiniti is continuing to sell more cars, while Audi is selling less and less. If anything, Lexus should be worried about being passed by BMW soon.
If you take Q7 big drop out of the mix Audi had a big month.
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November Auto Sales Weak
By Kevin Krolicki Mon Dec 3, 5:53 PM ET

DETROIT (Reuters) - U.S. auto sales slipped in November, led by an 11 percent drop at General Motors Corp (GM.N), as a weak housing market and higher gasoline prices kept buyers from showrooms and heightened concern that the industry was headed for a deepening downturn.

Retail sales for all three Detroit-based automakers turned lower in November. Executives across the industry cautioned that sales would remain under pressure headed into 2008 because of increasing economic uncertainties.

Both Ford and GM, which have recently clinched cost-cutting labor deals with the United Auto Workers, responded to the sales dip by cutting first-quarter production plans from year-earlier levels.

Ford (F.N) posted a narrow sales gain of 0.4 percent for November, marking its first monthly increase after a full year of unbroken declines. Ford's gain was driven mostly by stepped-up sales of vehicles to commercial fleet operators.

Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.T), which has eclipsed Ford for the No. 2 position in the U.S. market, eked out a slight sales gain of 0.3 percent but saw sales for its luxury Lexus brand drop by 7 percent.

"Rising fuel prices and sliding home values delivered a one-two punch this month," Toyota's U.S. sales chief Jim Lentz said in a statement.

Toyota's Japanese rivals posted more limited sales gains than analysts had forecast. Nissan Motor Co (7201.T) rose 6.1 percent. Honda Motor Co (7267.T) sales rose 4.7 percent.

CSM Worldwide analyst Michael Robinet said the cutbacks announced by both Ford and GM showed that U.S. automakers were taking advantage of new flexibility in their just-completed labor pact to idle capacity in the face of slack demand.

"They're coming to terms with the real economics of the industry," he said. "No longer is Detroit just out to move the metal."

Industry-wide U.S. sales of cars and light trucks were down about 1.6 percent in November from a year earlier at 1.18 million vehicles, according to tracking service AutoData Corp.

Ford, which is battling to stabilize market share, cut production by 7 percent and said it would keep a tight lid on output in light of the weakening economy.

GM cut its planned production by 11 percent.

"Vehicle sales have softened over the last few months. We believe this reflects concerns about the credit and stock market squeeze, along with the ongoing adjustments consumers are making in response to housing and gasoline prices," Ford economist Emily Kolinski Morris told reporters and analysts.

"Clearly we're concerned about the credit market turmoil and the softer economy, so we're taking a cautious approach to planning our business," she said.

GM's sales chief Mark LaNeve echoed that sentiment. "We don't want to bury our dealers in inventory," he told analysts. "We want to try to continue to run leaner on inventory."

'TOUGH' MARKET

Nissan sale chief Mark McNabb said industry-wide sales had been weaker than expected in November amid signs that a weaker housing market in states such as California and Florida had been a continued drag on sales.

"It was a tough market," McNabb told Reuters. "It was tougher than I anticipated."

Despite the weaker demand, the major U.S. automakers largely stuck to a recent tactic of avoiding deep discounting by better managing inventory and production levels.

Edmunds.com said the average incentive offered on a new vehicle in November rose less than 1 percent from a year earlier to $2,309.

Chrysler and Ford both cut incentive spending from year-earlier levels, Edmunds said.

GM spent slightly more, putting average incentives for all three Detroit-based automakers in a narrow range of about $3,100 to $3,300 per vehicle, Edmunds estimated.

Jesse Toprak, an analyst with the industry-tracking Web site, said the more disciplined pricing approach gave major automakers room to increase targeted discounts next year if demand remains weak. "The manufacturers have become much smarter about incentives," he said.

(Additional reporting by Poornima Gupta and Jui Chakravorty; Editing by Gary Hill)
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Sorry but you continue to show you have no understanding of the automobile business. They have a lot to worry about and the only people *yawning* seem to be potential customers.
So let me get this straight. I have no understanding of the automotive business, but yet you (a self-proclaimed automotive expert? ) have the nerve to say that Infiniti better watch out for Audi because they might surpass them in sales soon?


2007 TYD sales:

Infiniti: 114,383
Audi: 85,004


Infiniti +29,279


'nuff said
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Lexus, wow the LS dropped 1,000 units. I am going to assume that is due to the LS debuting last Nov and also them dumping the LS 430 at bargain prices last year. ES is down 700 units.

GS is up 20% for the 350 and 10% for the 450/460!! Finally some good news. IS sales up 7%, remaining VERY solid!! RX flat, amazing for an older SUV. GX holding well too!!

SC is going to sell lower and lower till the new one arrives and the LX needs to arrive!
I agree with your points in general. The GS though is nothing to be excited about. 20 more cars (sadly that's what 10% works out to) shouldn't have anyone at Lexus going

The LS will be interesting to watch. Is it going to continue to decline or hold steady going forward? Have some of the issues in the early builds caused any longer lasting sales effect?

Nice to see the IS keeping strong and here's to hoping they break out IS-F from the general IS pool when sales begin next year.
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Originally Posted by LetMeShowU
So let me get this straight. I have no understanding of the automotive business, but yet you (a self-proclaimed automotive expert? ) have the nerve to say that Infiniti better watch out for Audi because they might surpass them in sales soon?


2007 TYD sales:

Infiniti: 114,383
Audi: 85,004


Infiniti +29,279


'nuff said
Well "soon" is a relative term. In the car world two years is "soon". Infiniti would have to lose 10% sales next year and Audi pick up 10% YTD before *I* think anyone needs to worry. That is possible but unlikely so "soon" comes down to your definition of time in the car world.
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LS 600h 300% past sales targets.

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Ouch. Looks like the party is over at GM after a couple of months of sales increases that were due to high incentives and fleet sales. 11% sales drop, and retail sales overall dropped 9.7% for GM. I predicted that this was going to happen.

Looks like the Odyssey might possibly overtake the Caravan as best-selling minivan. Pretty amazing.

The Camry continues to post strong sales numbers despite increasing competition. Prius sales continue to be phenomenal. Interesting that Corolla sales and Civic sales were roughly equal, despite the Civic being relatively new and the Corolla being so old and dated. Also add to the fact that factories are winding down 2008 Corolla production in preparation for 2009 Corolla production. This just shows how much of a great reputation the Corolla has.

Highlander sales were up compared to last November, and it looks like the Highlander critics on CL have dissapeared all of a sudden.

Originally Posted by Mr Johnson
I agree with your points in general. The GS though is nothing to be excited about. 20 more cars (sadly that's what 10% works out to) shouldn't have anyone at Lexus going

The LS will be interesting to watch. Is it going to continue to decline or hold steady going forward? Have some of the issues in the early builds caused any longer lasting sales effect?

Nice to see the IS keeping strong and here's to hoping they break out IS-F from the general IS pool when sales begin next year.
GS350 sales were up 19% and yes GS460/GS450h sales were up only 20 cars. Also of significance is that Infiniti M sales were down over 20%. Looks like the GS will win the sales title over the Infiniti M this year.

LS sales should remain strong as word continues to spread about the LS hybrid. It will have an increasing halo effect on LS sales in general. YTD LS sales are still way up.

As for the whole argument that Lexus sales are down and that only new Lexus models are supporting sales, ALL the Lexus sedans are up YTD with the exception of the GS. RX sales are only down a little bit and still remain strong. Same with the GX, even though both the RX and GX are quite dated. LX sales are down because the LX570 goes on sale in the next few weeks.

Lexus is still up YTD. It is shocking how much Acura has dropped YTD. Acura is definitely losing ground in the luxury market.
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