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Old 12-06-07 | 02:16 PM
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I have recently fell in love with the Cayman S and am working on the last leftover '07 on the lot. Basically, i am looking at leasing the Cayman S. The MSRP is 62k and some change and they are offering it up for $52k (10k off msrp).

I am putting down 8k with tax, tags, 1st and last payments. I am looking at leasing it over 3 yrs, 12k miles.

They are offering payments of $705/a month.

Should i jump on it?

Any opinions on the car itself?
Old 12-06-07 | 02:24 PM
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For about $200 more a month, you can own that puppy...
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payment seems high if you ask me. shouldnt the payment be 600/month?
Old 12-06-07 | 02:53 PM
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Not too bad, you can haggle as the cars are not selling as well as 911s.
How is the car equipped?
Old 12-06-07 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by passnu2
payment seems high if you ask me. shouldnt the payment be 600/month?
Agreed, payments seem very high given they are discounting it to 52k. I would be looking at a payment under 600/mo personally.

I'll also add I'm never a fan of leasing cars.
Old 12-06-07 | 04:42 PM
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I would just buy the car if I was going to put $8k down. The Cayman S sounds like a great car though, that was pretty much the only other car I was considering other than the Vette I ended up buying
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Here is my situation and my thinking, please chime in:

1. My commute to work is about 10-12 mi each way (total of about 24 mi) and traffic free.

2. In most situations ive been in, I have always taken a loss in some sort of way on my cars and also dont want to go through the hassle of selling it when im done.

3. I dont plan on keeping the car for over 3-4 yrs as other priorities (kids) will be coming up.

4. The lower payments are more attractive to me

So, after haggling with the salesman, he has gotten my payments to $660/a month, 12k miles for a 3 yr lease term. Should I try getting the payments lower and how much?

Also, would it be beneficial to use a third party credit union of some sort to lower the price?
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Not too bad, you can haggle as the cars are not selling as well as 911s.
How is the car equipped?

Basically its a 07 S with the Blose and Xenons. Nothing else really..

I read one of your previous threads on the car, why dont you jump on one?

It is by far, the funnest, nicest ride i have ever driven by far!

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Why so much cash down on a lease? So over all more like $860\month on a 52k car?
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Originally Posted by dgtbullet
Here is my situation and my thinking, please chime in:

1. My commute to work is about 10-12 mi each way (total of about 24 mi) and traffic free.

2. In most situations ive been in, I have always taken a loss in some sort of way on my cars and also dont want to go through the hassle of selling it when im done.

3. I dont plan on keeping the car for over 3-4 yrs as other priorities (kids) will be coming up.

4. The lower payments are more attractive to me

So, after haggling with the salesman, he has gotten my payments to $660/a month, 12k miles for a 3 yr lease term. Should I try getting the payments lower and how much?

Also, would it be beneficial to use a third party credit union of some sort to lower the price?
You should take a look at the BMW M roadster/ coupe. It is a direct competitor to the Cayman S and drives incredible to boot.
The M will actually cost you a tad less to lease & includes free scheduled maintainence for 4yrs/50k unlike Porshe. Something to consider. Good luck.
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You should take a look at the BMW M roadster/ coupe. It is a direct competitor to the Cayman S and drives incredible to boot.
The M will actually cost you a tad less to lease & includes free scheduled maintainence for 4yrs/50k unlike Porshe. Something to consider. Good luck.
Another consideration is the insurance costs. The M Coupe/roadster insurance might well be more than that for the Cayman. I have no experience shopping for Cayman insurance but a few years back when I was considering an M3, M coupe, and 911 among others, I was shocked to find the M3 insurance quotes were almost double the 911 quotes despite the 911 being more expensive.
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i still think that the payment is high....personally i wouldnt put cash down on a lease. i think at the 52k...no money down you should be around 660/month. ask for a tax credit! for the amt of money you are putting you can find something better....not that this isnt a great vehicle!!!

i lease the S4 and that was around 55k and put no money down and was 640 per month with 22k miles per year. i know they are not comparable but in some ways they are...hope this helps. i also got the S4 at the end of the season like you would get this one....they are hiding a lot of profit somewhere!
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i still think that the payment is high....personally i wouldnt put cash down on a lease. i think at the 52k...no money down you should be around 660/month. ask for a tax credit! for the amt of money you are putting you can find something better....not that this isnt a great vehicle!!!

i lease the S4 and that was around 55k and put no money down and was 640 per month with 22k miles per year. i know they are not comparable but in some ways they are...hope this helps. i also got the S4 at the end of the season like you would get this one....they are hiding a lot of profit somewhere!
$0 down on a $52k car and only $640/a month payments!!! What am I doing wrong? The 8k down included taxes, tags and 1st/last payment..

Does anyone know what options a buyer has at the end of a lease, and how do you calculate the payments/terms?
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Originally Posted by dgtbullet
$0 down on a $52k car and only $640/a month payments!!! What am I doing wrong? The 8k down included taxes, tags and 1st/last payment..

Does anyone know what options a buyer has at the end of a lease, and how do you calculate the payments/terms?
at the end you can turn in the car or purchase it...watch as some have turn in fees and stuff. i think BMW you pay to turn the car back in. i personally trade them in about 2 1/2 years into the lease and wash out so i really dont keep them to find out. i was paying for miles in the early ones and have stopped since i dont keep the car. i leased the Lexus and just had the 15k miles.

on all my lease cars i have not once paid taxes on them so that adds up!!! so if you keep the 8k and can get the payment around 660/month i think you are doing okay. even if you are around 680/month. the residual of the car and the factor (rate) they are using has a lot to do with this. i saw someone posted a link on here for a breakdown on lease payments. i have never used it. i have a friend who owns an Acura and Lexus dealer and they showed me how the stuff works so i was fortuate. i think you just need to push them more and really it boils down to are you happy with the deal and does it make sense to you....
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Whats the residual currently? Earlier in the year it was 61% on 36 10k. Subtract 1 or 2% for a 12k perhaps. I'm assuming with $8000 total out the door, the cap reduction cost is about $5000? Whats the money factor they are giving you? Basically from what I see you are paying for about 55% of the $52,000 selling price over the term when you should be paying 40% + interest. The interest built in should not make up that other 15%.


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