167,009 Toyota Prius' sold so far this year???
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diesels in my opinion are not the way to go.
if you do some research, even the cleanest diesels arent that great.
the only plus is mpg, but the emissions are still not as clean. there are still a lot of particles being released into the air; the particles are smaller in mass than what they used to be, but there are a greater number of them.
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if you do some research, even the cleanest diesels arent that great.
the only plus is mpg, but the emissions are still not as clean. there are still a lot of particles being released into the air; the particles are smaller in mass than what they used to be, but there are a greater number of them.
plus, the loud ticking noise would drive me crazy
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I agree if one is environmentally conscious. Problem is, most people really only care about MPG. When it comes to hybrids, that is really all I care about as well. The only reason I'm interested in better MPG is because the cost of fuel. Because of that, it means I'm interested in saving money. Hybrid prices are coming down so that is good news. I actually don't care about which technology wins in the long run. I only care about cheap MPG. Whichever technology can bring to the market great MPG while being very affordable gets my vote.
Heck, that said, I'm really impressed with the compressed air car. I want to see that come to the USA and further develop that technology.
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Heck, that said, I'm really impressed with the compressed air car. I want to see that come to the USA and further develop that technology.
to those who do care about the environment though, were all going to die ine like 50 years unless we do something. its very depressing. im definately going to get me one of those hydrogen fuel cell vehicles when they start becoming mainstream
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Even though it wouldnt affect the global warming trend (scientists are predicting a cooling trend coming on now btw, I'm sure we'll hear the ice age arguments soon), it still does other manners of pollution that kills off wildlife and does other bad things.
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My local Federal Credit Union is giving away a 07/08 Prius. Took a look at the window sticker while I was waiting in line and it showed around $23K. The prices seem to be coming down on these cars as at one point where I live you had to pay nearly $30K for one. While I was waiting in line, I thought about picking one up since we now live within 3-4 miles from work for both my wife and I. I figured I could add some nice 19"rims, a good A/V system for my son, and enter it in car shows
But then, I'm not sure if anyone makes an exhausts system or intake or any other performance mods for the engine side. Do they even make lowering springs for this car? Maybe just go with Universal Air. Anyway, buy the time I got to a teller I decide against it. Fixing up a Camry Hybrid or Accord Hybrid is probably a better choice since the body is the same as its non Hybrid brothers, so more exterior parts should be available.
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Maybe you were talking about the "market adjustment" pricing back in 2004/2005??
TOM'S makes exhaust systems, no intake. TOM'S or TRD makes good front/rear braces and TRD makes lowering springs (if the Touring edition ones aren't good enough). Body kits are available through KENSTYLE, Modellista and so forth.
Toyota has a recycling plant for the NiMH batteries. Had to shut down half its operation since not many batteries were making it to the factory. Most of the salvaged ones are being re-used.
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Go Toyota!
And to think that most companies thought Toyota made a mistake when it released the first Prius because they thought there was no market for it. Think GM.
Now who's laughing.
And to think that most companies thought Toyota made a mistake when it released the first Prius because they thought there was no market for it. Think GM.
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Originally Posted by rosskoss
Yes, the Prius is now outselling entire brands in the US including -
Acura
Audi
Buick
Infiniti
Lincoln
Mercury
Mitsubishi
Saturn
Scion
Subaru
Suzuki
Volvo
Yes, the Prius is now outselling entire brands in the US including -
Acura
Audi
Buick
Infiniti
Lincoln
Mercury
Mitsubishi
Saturn
Scion
Subaru
Suzuki
Volvo
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Yes, I guess it was Discovery Channel. I heard about it but it was the first time I actually saw it on that episode. The neat thing about it is the nitrogen compressor, or whatever they were using to fill the tanks ran off compressed air or something like that. At the end they mentioned once the tech advances a bit to make those compressors smaller, the car itself can be self sustaining and never need to externally fill the tanks. That would be cool. Over all I can't see any down side at all.
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Yes, I guess it was Discovery Channel. I heard about it but it was the first time I actually saw it on that episode. The neat thing about it is the nitrogen compressor, or whatever they were using to fill the tanks ran off compressed air or something like that. At the end they mentioned once the tech advances a bit to make those compressors smaller, the car itself can be self sustaining and never need to externally fill the tanks. That would be cool. Over all I can't see any down side at all.
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http://www.theaircar.com/data_sheet.html
http://www.theaircar.com
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With the sheer amount of cars on the road in America, going to diesels would be a bad move. Diesel engines are dirty compared to petrol engines; we'd be polluting even more than we already are.
Even though it wouldnt affect the global warming trend (scientists are predicting a cooling trend coming on now btw, I'm sure we'll hear the ice age arguments soon), it still does other manners of pollution that kills off wildlife and does other bad things.
Even though it wouldnt affect the global warming trend (scientists are predicting a cooling trend coming on now btw, I'm sure we'll hear the ice age arguments soon), it still does other manners of pollution that kills off wildlife and does other bad things.
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GM's BlueDiesel technology will change a lot of the bad emissions of diesel. The sulfur content of the exhaust will decrease 10 fold, from 500 ppm to just 5 ppm (parts per million) when this finishes.
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I'm definitely no expert on thermo or fluid dynamics, but this is the published literature from the company. Maybe you can read about it and let us know why or why not this will work. All I know is they are going into production in Europe so I'm guessing something works.
http://www.theaircar.com/data_sheet.html
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http://www.theaircar.com/data_sheet.html
http://www.theaircar.com
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a self sustaining energy system is basically impossible because that would mean 100% efficiency, nothing anywhere can achieve 100% efficiency you will always have losses somewhere. Something will have to be recharged on that compressed air car sometime. There are always energy losses through heat, friction, and noise that rob efficiency. In a nutshell, you cant bounce energy back and forth without losses, you can most certainly try to recover as much as you can but you can never recover 100%