92 SC400

^^^^ I agree. I liked the looks of the Z3 better than the Z4, though I must say, I am not bothered by the Z4 M Coupe's looks at all. I wouldnt mind driving one of these. What are they going for these days, real world pricing?

gengar

Starting at 6-7k under MSRP appears to be the baseline. Last time I went to the BMW dealership for my roommate's service, they offered $6800 under on one of the models, off the bat, and I'm sure I could have haggled it down quite a bit more. A few new (and I'm sure very happy) Z4 M owners over on that bmw forum across the street have claimed discounts over 10k, including one who said he got nearly 15k off!

cliffud

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kinda of a cool looking ride... i'd wait for 2-3 years before buying one though... maybe it will actually be reliable - who knows.

92 SC400

Good to know they're being discounted that deeply. Something to keep in mind as I will be looking for another car spring/summer this year - this may be something to consider. I could NEVER paying the $50k+ MSRP on this car though.

It came out as an '06 I believe so hopefully, if there are many issues, they will start to show up very soon - ideally, there aren't any though!

Iceman

It's funny you should say that, because the Z3 was somewhat widely regarded, even here on CL, as a "chick's car". I never quite got it, particularly since I personally thought my M Roadster was the most aggressive looking 2-seater on the road at the time, but it would appear BMW took the feedback to heart in trying to make the Z4 look more angry and angular.

And I saw a Z8 in Scottsdale last week and it reminded me how beautiful that car was. THAT'S the best thing BMW ever did with a convertible!

92 SC400

I remember seeing these cars in showrooms as well as some Alpina versions and always thought they were very nice.

TJW98LS

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I don't think I've ever seen a chick drive an M roadster...

You gotta be kidding if you regaurd the Z3 as a "chick's car."

That's MIATA territory.

MCG33

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I didn't think much of them until I saw one in person and rode around in it. I would take one in a heartbeat now. That little thing is a beast!

blacksc400

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it is a hella fun machine, but I rather see myself in a 335 coupe even it is more pmt.
I don't want people see me in a shoe.

gengar

This is true for me too, but only because I've never even seen an M roadster on the street. I see more F430s in my area every week than I've seen Z4 Ms ever, period... I suppose if you're really looking for exclusivity, you should just get a car that nearly no one will buy.


Roadsters will always have a perception among the general populace of being chick cars. That's just the way it is. Even the Boxster gets maligned as such. The Z3 tends to get more flack because it was perceived as cheaply made and underpowered.

Frankly, I'm more bothered that so many people take offense to it being labeled as such.

doug_999

Maybe the early 4 cyl cars were "perceived as such", but I don't think the later model Z3s were ever "perceived" as cheaply made or underpowered.

TJW98LS

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We had a 99 Z3 2.8 in the family once...manual.

Now if none of you know what that means, it's the biggest engine available for the 3-series sedan.

That car was a beast if you knew how to drive it. The LS430 had a rough time holding on to it...but I mean hey, apples to oranges.