Koma

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Are you saying that price is high? Because I'm pretty sure the competition is in the same range. So if you're going to buy a used M5 and looking at the IS-F you could look at the competition and say the same thing.

DASHOCKER

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If this car can meet or exceed the performance and handeling in a head to head (not a solo sprint on a test track for show) with M3, C63, RS4, then hell yeah it will be worth the price of admission. I have yet to see head to head vids wth this car and the competion to date. In this arena of automobile, buyers crave to know what this vehicle can do against the others. I say hold your cash until then.

Koma

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I have a feeling the best bang for buck is the C63 or the CTS-V (if you can call it part of this class but since it's priced down there than sure what the hell).

tex2670

For $59k, they can't include IPA and headlamp washers as standard??

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

Ah thanks! A friend just got an LS460L and doesn't find it very advanced though!

bitkahuna

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Well they could, but they didn't.

XeroK00L

I guess that they figured that some people prefer the cleaner look without the washers (while some people without the option buy stickers to fake it).

STIG

I think it's expensive. I was hoping somewhere around 52k. I'd pay 10k more and get a GTR if I can.

spwolf

yeah right...

S5 with 70hp less costs 59k.

it is great deal from Lexus.

STIG

Great deal from Lexus?? Compare to what?

Speaking in terms of base model to base, S5 starts at 50,500 which is 6k cheaper than IS-F base.

I will have to wait and see how BMW priced their new M3 next monday. If they price under 60k for their M3, it's game over for Lexus.

Don't get me wrong. IS-F is a brilliant car and I absolutely love it! In order to lure the new customers, Lexus has to prove a lot. This is a very tough segment. Lexus needs to massively undercut the price to attracts the buyers. 60k for decently loaded IS-F is just way too pricey. I'd bet the invoice will be about 8 or 10k less.

gengar

Lexus already has proven a lot - just look at the reviews. As for needing to undercut to attract buyers, preorder lists already dictate otherwise.

STIG

I am not arguing or doubting the performance it the IS-F. As I have said many many times, the car is brilliant. I had a chance to short gun with a pro driver in the racing circuit (thanks to flipside). I could careless about what review says.

In case you haven't notice, people are dropping out from the pre-order lists.

gengar

I haven't noticed, seeing as I'm still slated for August delivery at my dealership. That's almost 30 vehicles out.

Shawnmack

I was about 6k off. I thought about 50k. Like Shock said make sure you test the other ones before you buy.

STIG

If you are willing to take delivery (and seriously considering buying it) from Steven Creek Lexus, I will give up my #2 spot for you, if they allow it.