What do you guys think about the Jaguar XF?
02-02-08, 10:07 PM
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What do you guys think about the Jaguar XF?
Looks pretty hot to me and it is going to replace the Jaguar S-Type which has come up to average in CR reliability. That would be my biggest concern regarding Jaguar.
I can do without the hidden motorized vents as it would be one more thing to break.
http://www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xf/preview/preview.htm
Your thoughts?
I can do without the hidden motorized vents as it would be one more thing to break.
http://www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xf/preview/preview.htm
Your thoughts?
02-02-08, 11:06 PM
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Looks pretty hot to me and it is going to replace the Jaguar S-Type which has come up to average in CR reliability. That would be my biggest concern regarding Jaguar.
I can do without the hidden motorized vents as it would be one more thing to break.
http://www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xf/preview/preview.htm
Your thoughts?
I can do without the hidden motorized vents as it would be one more thing to break.
http://www.jaguarusa.com/us/en/xf/preview/preview.htm
Your thoughts?
02-02-08, 11:10 PM
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Moved to Car Chat. 
I think it is an interesting vehicle, and a much-needed return for Jaguar. It is a model that is born out of survival necessity, sorta like Buick had with the Lucerne, and others. Hopefully it will succeed for Jaguar. If we believe the UK reviewers, it is the cat's meow.
I think it is an interesting vehicle, and a much-needed return for Jaguar. It is a model that is born out of survival necessity, sorta like Buick had with the Lucerne, and others. Hopefully it will succeed for Jaguar. If we believe the UK reviewers, it is the cat's meow.
02-02-08, 11:19 PM
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Well I've done more reading on it and its a mixed bag for me.
1. Its still based on the OLD S-type, which was based on the LS/Ford Thunderbird. Not a bad thing but not great either.
2. Carryover powertrains. We just had to put up with Lexus doing this with the GS 430, why is Jag doing the same? The 420hp engine is nice but will cost around 65k.
3. Looks. If I want a car to look like the GS, I will just buy a GS. The front is odd and the beltline very high. The concept was much better. The best part is the swoopy rear with Aston Martin tails.
4. Interior has cool features, ambient lighting, pop up controls, closing vents. It still leaves me cold in pics, must see in person.
5. Shaky image. Jaguar might go under, it hasn't made money as a company in over 10 years. I am a huge Jag fan but that just smells of failure.
6. Size. The car is 195 inches long, as big as the last gen LS 430. Its a big car.
Now on the other hand, it is different, it will be more "special" as it will be sold in smaller quantities. However, it just leaves me so-so on paper. I will have to drive and feel to make a final opinion.
1. Its still based on the OLD S-type, which was based on the LS/Ford Thunderbird. Not a bad thing but not great either.
2. Carryover powertrains. We just had to put up with Lexus doing this with the GS 430, why is Jag doing the same? The 420hp engine is nice but will cost around 65k.
3. Looks. If I want a car to look like the GS, I will just buy a GS. The front is odd and the beltline very high. The concept was much better. The best part is the swoopy rear with Aston Martin tails.
4. Interior has cool features, ambient lighting, pop up controls, closing vents. It still leaves me cold in pics, must see in person.
5. Shaky image. Jaguar might go under, it hasn't made money as a company in over 10 years. I am a huge Jag fan but that just smells of failure.
6. Size. The car is 195 inches long, as big as the last gen LS 430. Its a big car.
Now on the other hand, it is different, it will be more "special" as it will be sold in smaller quantities. However, it just leaves me so-so on paper. I will have to drive and feel to make a final opinion.
02-02-08, 11:35 PM
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I think its the best thing that has come from jaguar since....ever.
its very good looking on the outside, looks like a GS. interior needs a little bit more work though
its very good looking on the outside, looks like a GS. interior needs a little bit more work though
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02-03-08, 05:37 PM
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I want to see Jaguar survive, and I believe the XK and XF will lead its renaissance.
However, I see it downsizing, being produced in limited numbers such as Aston Martin or Bentley, which is what Jaguar is supposed to exude: exclusivity, luxury, and iconic status.
However, I see it downsizing, being produced in limited numbers such as Aston Martin or Bentley, which is what Jaguar is supposed to exude: exclusivity, luxury, and iconic status.
02-03-08, 10:26 PM
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I like the exterior and some of the interior bits (JaguarTouch, RAZR-like illumination, unique rotary driver ****) but I hate the front seat design and the door panels that look like it came out of a Lincoln.
I do hope it succeeds because Jaguar hasa great heritage and had great designs. Unlike the 911, relying on their traditional design didn't get them anywhere and going back in time (with the S-Type) made it worse.
I do hope it succeeds because Jaguar hasa great heritage and had great designs. Unlike the 911, relying on their traditional design didn't get them anywhere and going back in time (with the S-Type) made it worse.
02-03-08, 10:40 PM
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I like the rear 3/4 angle view the best. I think the little badges on the fenders vents are busy looking. I'd love to see one slammed on some 21" ZONE 10's and then cast my vote on how much I like it! lol
The interior is a 10 in my book, love it.
The interior is a 10 in my book, love it.
02-03-08, 10:54 PM
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Looks OK, chassis tuning is superb, according to some of the reviews (comfortable and controlled at the same time), price is not too bad.
Reliability is a big question, plus, I think it is mildly embarassing for Jaguar V8 to be making same power as Lexus/Infinity/BMW 6 cylinder engines.
Their base V8 should be good for at least 360hp.
I'll wait and see what Hyundai Genesis has to offer.
Reliability is a big question, plus, I think it is mildly embarassing for Jaguar V8 to be making same power as Lexus/Infinity/BMW 6 cylinder engines.
Their base V8 should be good for at least 360hp.
I'll wait and see what Hyundai Genesis has to offer.