2009 RL - disapointment
02-06-08, 12:47 PM
#32
Lexus Fanatic
The posted article and pictures, yes, were off of a talk-forum, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they had major input into the design decisions.
02-06-08, 12:57 PM
#34
With BMW, what Bangle has done is turn the industry upside down. I was one of those people who actually signed the petition to get rid of Bangle. Not anymore. It's people like him who keep designs evolving to the next level and moving us forward.
Elements of his designs have been absorbed by several other car companies, including Lexus. I hope Bangle gets even more aggressive in the future. One criticism that I've had about Lexus in the past is that their design have always been derivative. It still remains the same. I hope that Lexus gets someone like Bangle in the future to do something truely different and innovative.
02-06-08, 01:20 PM
#35
Lexus Fanatic
If Audi hadn't changed, their designs would have looked highly dated by now. Change is always hard to accept, especially in design. But over time, we can see where some of the truely creative designers were going with their designs. Audi's grill which stuck out like a sore thumb to me in the past makes all the sense in the world now. It's very bold and truely different. No one else has that grill. That's one way to establish brand identity.
With BMW, what Bangle has done is turn the industry upside down. I was one of those people who actually signed the petition to get rid of Bangle. Not anymore. It's people like him who keep designs evolving to the next level and moving us forward.
Elements of his designs have been absorbed by several other car companies, including Lexus. I hope Bangle gets even more aggressive in the future. One criticism that I've had about Lexus in the past is that their design have always been derivative. It still remains the same. I hope that Lexus gets someone like Bangle in the future to do something truely different and innovative.
With BMW, what Bangle has done is turn the industry upside down. I was one of those people who actually signed the petition to get rid of Bangle. Not anymore. It's people like him who keep designs evolving to the next level and moving us forward.
Elements of his designs have been absorbed by several other car companies, including Lexus. I hope Bangle gets even more aggressive in the future. One criticism that I've had about Lexus in the past is that their design have always been derivative. It still remains the same. I hope that Lexus gets someone like Bangle in the future to do something truely different and innovative.
I'm with you that some changes were necessary......especially with the adoption of electronic engine controls, clearcoat paint, more transmission gears, car-based AWD, and disc brakes. But we may have gotten past the point where we have made the NECESSARY changes and are now just making them for changes' sake.
Anyhow, let's get back to the new RL.................
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-06-08 at 01:26 PM.
02-06-08, 01:23 PM
#36
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Not to pile on, but gotta agree with most everyone here. That RL looks very bad. The RL may have a class leading interior but it's way down the list in terms of prestige, and in this class of vehicles, prestige sells a lot more than class leading interior does.
02-06-08, 01:30 PM
#38
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Yes, but that is because a lot of people don't THINK. The wise person looks at the car and judges it, not by the nameplate or logo, but by what it actually gives you for the money. That's what I try to do, for example, in my auto reviews.
02-06-08, 03:17 PM
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