March 2008 Vehicles Sales
04-29-08, 01:32 PM
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I actually thought about the possibility of them excluding the hybrid sales, seeing that the 36,161 Accord figure excludes the almost non-existent Accord Hybrid sales, but then 33,557 does not equal to 31,310, so either way the article is pure BS. Plus it makes zero sense not to include the sales of Camry Hybrid and Accord Hybrid. They are the same cars as their gasoline counterparts, after all, with just different drivetrain options.
04-29-08, 02:01 PM
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I actually thought about the possibility of them excluding the hybrid sales, seeing that the 36,161 Accord figure excludes the almost non-existent Accord Hybrid sales, but then 33,557 does not equal to 31,310, so either way the article is pure BS. Plus it makes zero sense not to include the sales of Camry Hybrid and Accord Hybrid. They are the same cars as their gasoline counterparts, after all, with just different drivetrain options.
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04-29-08, 06:09 PM
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.Did Honda sell 36,161 Accords or 3X,XXX Accords and X,XXX Accord Coupes? Fact is we will never know, because Honda does not separate Accord coupe and sedan sales, even in it's press release. Toyota in it's press release does separate the Camry and Camry Hybrid.
If we take away BOTH Camry hybrids and Accord coupes from the sales totals, I'm totally sure the Camry would still outsell the Accord.
Either way, it's a completely silly article. Is Edmunds implying that the Camry hybrid is NOT a Camry!?
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04-30-08, 05:01 AM
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I love frivolous internet articles with misconstrued information being pushed as "fact" .
Did Honda sell 36,161 Accords or 3X,XXX Accords and X,XXX Accord Coupes? Fact is we will never know, because Honda does not separate Accord coupe and sedan sales, even in it's press release. Toyota in it's press release does separate the Camry and Camry Hybrid.
If we take away BOTH Camry hybrids and Accord coupes from the sales totals, I'm totally sure the Camry would still outsell the Accord.
Either way, it's a completely silly article. Is Edmunds implying that the Camry hybrid is NOT a Camry!?
.Did Honda sell 36,161 Accords or 3X,XXX Accords and X,XXX Accord Coupes? Fact is we will never know, because Honda does not separate Accord coupe and sedan sales, even in it's press release. Toyota in it's press release does separate the Camry and Camry Hybrid.
If we take away BOTH Camry hybrids and Accord coupes from the sales totals, I'm totally sure the Camry would still outsell the Accord.
Either way, it's a completely silly article. Is Edmunds implying that the Camry hybrid is NOT a Camry!?
04-30-08, 07:41 AM
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The issue here is not who separates what sales. My point is, the Camry hybrid is STILL a Camry. The Accord Coupe is STILL an Accord. Again, the article by Edmunds is silly because its not counting all Camry sales (including the hybrid and whatever small number of Solara sales) yet it's counting all Accord sales.
04-30-08, 08:35 AM
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Honda Accord: Best Selling Vehicle in March 2008; Outsells Malibu & Camry
Posted on: April 29th, 2008
While everyone is talking up the Chevrolet Malibu sales beating Toyota’s Camry and Nissan’s Altima, Honda’s Accord is quitely taking over the mid-size sedan segment. According to an Edmunds analysis, the new 2008 Honda Accord was not only the best-selling car in America in March but also the best-selling vehicle.
Honda sold 36,161 Accords in March out selling the Camry by 4,851 units and the Malibu by 21,414 units. It also outsold the usual top-place vehicles like the Ford F-150 and the Chevrolet Silverado 15000.
Without many incentives the 2008 Accord is finally catching on with U.S. customers. According to Honda, Accord sales have dropped by 10 percent in the first two months of 2008 compared to 2007. Honda says the decline was due to the fact that the Japanese automaker killed of huge incentives it offered on the previous model.
The Honda Accord was the only Honda vehicles that made the Top 10 Best-Selling Vehicle list.
Posted on: April 29th, 2008
While everyone is talking up the Chevrolet Malibu sales beating Toyota’s Camry and Nissan’s Altima, Honda’s Accord is quitely taking over the mid-size sedan segment. According to an Edmunds analysis, the new 2008 Honda Accord was not only the best-selling car in America in March but also the best-selling vehicle.
Honda sold 36,161 Accords in March out selling the Camry by 4,851 units and the Malibu by 21,414 units. It also outsold the usual top-place vehicles like the Ford F-150 and the Chevrolet Silverado 15000.
Without many incentives the 2008 Accord is finally catching on with U.S. customers. According to Honda, Accord sales have dropped by 10 percent in the first two months of 2008 compared to 2007. Honda says the decline was due to the fact that the Japanese automaker killed of huge incentives it offered on the previous model.
The Honda Accord was the only Honda vehicles that made the Top 10 Best-Selling Vehicle list.
Did you write this article?
I dont know what to make of it. I do know I see TONS of new Accords in Atlanta, just today, I was behind one going 40mpg in the fast lane on the highway.
05-02-08, 05:09 PM
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Edmunds "admits" to manipulation of sales numbers
http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/04/...accord-be.html
Michelle Krebs, of Edmunds posted the following comment:
Total dissapointment 
. If Edmunds does not include Solara sales in the Camry's total, then why did they include the Accord Coupe sales numbers in total Accord sales? I see no other reason than for them to do it other than sales manipulation to make a sensationalist headline.
Michelle Krebs, of Edmunds posted the following comment:
Originally Posted by Michelle Krebs
Thank you. We do not include the Solara as Toyota does.
. If Edmunds does not include Solara sales in the Camry's total, then why did they include the Accord Coupe sales numbers in total Accord sales? I see no other reason than for them to do it other than sales manipulation to make a sensationalist headline.
05-02-08, 08:22 PM
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Total dissapointment . If Edmunds does not include Solara sales in the Camry's total, then why did they include the Accord Coupe sales numbers in total Accord sales? I see no other reason than for them to do it other than sales manipulation to make a sensationalist headline.
. If Edmunds does not include Solara sales in the Camry's total, then why did they include the Accord Coupe sales numbers in total Accord sales? I see no other reason than for them to do it other than sales manipulation to make a sensationalist headline.
05-03-08, 12:46 AM
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... far from it. I simply posted this because Edmunds is a respected and popular automotive news outlet/information source and keeping that in mind it's silly that they would resort to manipulating numbers just for a sensationalist headline (complete with BOLD emphasis).
05-11-08, 01:04 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it is not called the Camry Coupe, it is the Camry Solara. Even so, the word Camry does not appear on the car does it? Worse, it is not even based on the same platform is it? You can let me know which of these are incorrect, but to be honest, I am surprised to learn that Toyota even includes the Solara totals in the Camry totals. It would seem that by adding the word Camry into the product name (and yet not even using it), that Toyota is doing the misleading here.