-J-P-L-

I think an extra price should be paid for vehicles that are more than neccessary transportation.

Think about it - on the way to work every morning, what do you see?

You see nearly every car being driven by ONE person. Vehicles like Hummers, Expeditions, Ram Quad cabs, transporting one human and getting 13mpgs. You don't need anything more than a $13K subcompact that get's over 35 mpg's to get you to work in the same amount of time. In fact, these subcompacts will still move 5 people.

If everyone switched to a subcompact, America would consume nearly HALF of the gasoline we are now. You think gas would still be $3.20/gal.?

tuan92129

Don't we already pay a luxury tax?
Global WARMING may be or may not be true...Global Climate Change is REAL.
One more reality, There is a LIMITED amount of oil in the Earth, and we are an oil dependent society.
We don't need high horsepower cars that consume a lot of gas, but i'm not sure a tax for that will solve our problems.
I would consider liberal tree-huggers to be more left...socialist/communist
Aren't your legislatures suppossed to represent THE PEOPLE?
Maybe...its not just them

Bean

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Amen!!!
Envirofascists and social liberals have been a HUGE contribution to that. Both of which look GREAT on paper; but in the real world, where the rest of us live, it doesn't work out so well.

Of course global climate change is real. The debate is whether it is manmade; and the fascist attitudes towards it from those who think man-made global climate change is REAL seems to be uncontestable because they won't debate it with REAL scientists.

Anyone who does the research for themselves with an OPEN mind is going to find FAR MORE evidence AGAINST it. It is supremely arrogant in a way to think humanity has enough power to change the planet. CO2 isn't even a greenhouse gas, did you know THAT? It was an assumption from the beginning due to slight error margins from judging timespans when looking at ice core samples. Almost ALL evidence shows it to be a SIDE EFFECT of the temperature increase. And the UN/Al Gore model didn't take into account the heating from the sun. And it is at a solar minimus in Sunspot activity right now, just like when the Little Ice Age started.... and lo' and behold; North America has its highest snowfall record since 1966 (back when the same stupid scientists were touting a global cooling trend and the next ice age) and next-to-nothing tropical storm activity when those same scientists were predicting a very high rate of big/bad hurricanes. Read the writing on the wall.

LexFather

What defines a high hp car? B/C honestly, anything over 250hp is IMO high hp, so would this include Camrys, Accords, Altimas, Malibus etc...

bitkahuna

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Wow... thank you Karl Marx. You must love his slogan: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

And to answer your last question the answer is yes, it would make NO difference. At the rate the world is going China will soon consume more gasoline than the entire planet does today.

I guess you hate the idea of COMFORT too. I'm 6'3" and driving a sub-compact is NOT comfortable. Also, if 5 people were wearing business attire and cram into a subcompact they're going to look like CRAP when they get to their destination. Not to mention the AC can't keep up, plus it will have the acceleration of a slug with all that weight in it.

While you're at your proposal, how about taxing homes that have air conditioning because it's not 'necessary', oh and taxing refrigerators and stoves and microwaves and home theaters and 'extra' PCs because they're not 'necessary'.

Where do you stop?

bitkahuna

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Plus sales tax, registration tax, property tax, income tax, death tax, capital gains tax, endless fees...

Yes, gee, the weather has changed over time... news at 11.

There's a limited amount of everything, like air and water too.

So how high is 'high'?

It's just unbelievable to me you guys want to give away your freedoms...

You're right, a lot of younger people in particular have become brainwashed for great 'global causes' and are begging to give away all their money and freedoms... it's very sad. Be careful what you ask for... you might just get it.

bitkahuna

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I believe it's either Oregon or Washington states that are pushing for 'road use taxation' which would mean every car would be equipped with a device to track its mileage (and location, but the govt would never use that info, right... ) and you'd be charged based on how many miles you drive.

But isn't that what gas tax already covers? You're already "incented" to drive less and drive more economical vehicles by that.

bitkahuna

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We have other, bigger threats too... http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

lobuxracer

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^^Dihydrogen monoxide. 100% of all serial killers have been affected by this dangerous compound. We should all ban this substance!

-J-P-L-

I didn't know anything about Karl Marx actually.

Not suggesting the banning of unnessarily massive vehicles. Just bugs me the amount of people I see alone in an 8-passenger beast.

On your point about comfort, yes, typically the seats aren't has high quality but head room is almost always better in subcompacts because of there arced roofs. A Beetle or Yaris has more headroom than just about any full-
size luxury car. Usually, its only a little width that is sacrificed.

This big car mentallity is still mostly an American attribute. I think it's finally starting to change with these gas prices. And when gas passes $4 maybe $5 a gallon, then gaz guzzlers will become mostly a memory.

bitkahuna

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But you don't know where they've been or are going on that trip. Maybe they just dropped people off or are going to pick them up. Plus even if that's not the case, maybe they need the big vehicle on the weekend but don't have the luxury of having an extra car for the weekday commute.

Right and that's a market mechanism, NOT requiring more government meddling.

A little width? Try having 3 people side by side in the back of a Yaris vs. an LS460 or even a Camry.

OK, just looked up the specs:
The LS is 7" wider than a Yaris - that's HUGE and it has more rear headroom than the Yaris sedan and hatchback.

Small cars have their place, but comfort for 5 isn't one of them.

flipicanez

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Its all about control, the more ways they can think of taking our money, the more ways they are actually thinking of taking our freedoms away.

bitkahuna

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Exactly. The way some people talk about wanting the govt to control more and more things we should just have companies pay taxes to the govt and not pay people and just have the govt pay people what they think is 'necessary'. Oh wait, that was tried, for 70 years, in the Soviet Union, and it lead to millions of deaths, poverty, no rights, imprisonment and endless misery and stagnation.

SecPole14

I agree.

I say any vehicle with an engine over 3.0L should be taxed at an increasing rate based on displacement at the FEDERAL level.

I propose .5% for each additional 100cc increase. So a 3.5L would have an extra 2.5% tacked onto the sticker price and all the suburban cowboys who simply must have a 5.0L or 6.0L engine in their pickup would first have to really pay for the privilege.

It makes me sick to see the result of the pickup/SUV tax incentive from a few years ago...every other hick with a home lawncare business ran out and bought himself a dually and could then write it off.

The government should send a message to car companies that would encourage them to quit pandering to weak, stupid consumers by hawking ever-larger engines. Do we really need Accords and Camrys with 3.5L V6s?!

With turbocharging and direct-injection, large displacement and high cylinder count is not necessary anymore.

No matter. The writing is already on the wall. GM canceled their next V8 program, and Ford is moving away from V8s in cars and SUVs. Even Chrysler has said the Hemi is not a part of their plans for the future.

Solo_D33A

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