BMW 550 grows into 555I?
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BMW 550 grows into 555I?
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and how fuel efficient is this 4.4 liter going to be?
It's 2008. We don't need to be driving around in 400hp vehicles that get crap gas mileage when the cost of fuel is $4/gallon. Luxury or not, whether you can afford the gas or not, it's unnecessary and environmentally irresponsible for these companies to continue to make bigger and more powerful gas guzzlers without trying to enhance fuel economy. Both BMW & Infiniti are the biggest offenders in the luxury segment, in my opinion.
It's 2008. We don't need to be driving around in 400hp vehicles that get crap gas mileage when the cost of fuel is $4/gallon. Luxury or not, whether you can afford the gas or not, it's unnecessary and environmentally irresponsible for these companies to continue to make bigger and more powerful gas guzzlers without trying to enhance fuel economy. Both BMW & Infiniti are the biggest offenders in the luxury segment, in my opinion.
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wow, 400hp was in m5, and now the "normal" 5 series, that's something
time for lexus to wake up.... 340hp gs460 won't cut it
Sens4Miles, it depends on design, more power doesn't always means worse gas mileage. gs460 342hp and ls460 380hp have pretty much the same gas mileage. gs400 to gs430 (larger engine) and also about the same gas mileage
time for lexus to wake up.... 340hp gs460 won't cut it
Sens4Miles, it depends on design, more power doesn't always means worse gas mileage. gs460 342hp and ls460 380hp have pretty much the same gas mileage. gs400 to gs430 (larger engine) and also about the same gas mileage
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wow, 400hp was in m5, and now the "normal" 5 series, that's something
time for lexus to wake up.... 340hp gs460 won't cut it
Sens4Miles, it depends on design, more power doesn't always means worse gas mileage. gs460 342hp and ls460 380hp have pretty much the same gas mileage. gs400 to gs430 (larger engine) and also about the same gas mileage
time for lexus to wake up.... 340hp gs460 won't cut it
Sens4Miles, it depends on design, more power doesn't always means worse gas mileage. gs460 342hp and ls460 380hp have pretty much the same gas mileage. gs400 to gs430 (larger engine) and also about the same gas mileage
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I'm with Sens4Miles here, when does it stop? Really, when? Why can't we have a nice 300-350hp car getting 28 mpg? The only one close is the GS 450h.
Then the cars just get heavier anyway. So the next M5 will be 4500 lbs? Is that fun?
Luxury should be about having the BEST fuel economy and the BEST power.
Lexus seems to be the only one trying to give an option and even their first generation of hybrids are a mixed bag.
I guess 300hp Altimas/Accords/Camrys/Malibus are around the corner!
Then the cars just get heavier anyway. So the next M5 will be 4500 lbs? Is that fun?
Luxury should be about having the BEST fuel economy and the BEST power.
Lexus seems to be the only one trying to give an option and even their first generation of hybrids are a mixed bag.
I guess 300hp Altimas/Accords/Camrys/Malibus are around the corner!
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As for what luxury should be? Well, I agree that a luxury brand should be about giving the customer options. That options could be anything from a 4 cylinder car to a V10 car and anything in between. That is what luxury is all about. Getting what you want regardless of cost. Nobody needs luxury. Luxury is simply that. It is an excess of what we want. If best fuel economy happens to come with the best power, great. If not no bid deal. It is luxury after all where we really don't need any of it. We just want it.
Mike, I'm actually a tad bit surprised to hear that from you. What if you got the power and fuel consumption numbers you wanted in a luxury car but it came from a 4 cylinder motor? Would you be okay with that?
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I'm with Sens4Miles here, when does it stop? Really, when? Why can't we have a nice 300-350hp car getting 28 mpg? The only one close is the GS 450h.
Then the cars just get heavier anyway. So the next M5 will be 4500 lbs? Is that fun?
Luxury should be about having the BEST fuel economy and the BEST power.
Then the cars just get heavier anyway. So the next M5 will be 4500 lbs? Is that fun?
Luxury should be about having the BEST fuel economy and the BEST power.
I think a new "gentleman's agreement" is in order pretty soon.
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I kind of like that... haha
Can't wait for those people tuning the 335s their hands on one of these...
I think what differentiates this and an M5 is like asking what differentiates a 335 from a M3? The answer? A lot more than any HP figure can tell you...
Can't wait for those people tuning the 335s their hands on one of these...
I think what differentiates this and an M5 is like asking what differentiates a 335 from a M3? The answer? A lot more than any HP figure can tell you...
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