LexFather

I figured the drive would be good, the last FWD TL was already a great drive, adding SH-AWD can only get better. However the price is no thanks and if I want a 42k car made in America, I'll buy a CTS thank you.

Not sure why they think its higher than entry level as the price is square where the IS/3/C/A4 is and those cars can hit near 50k. The Tl has one big big big thing over those cars and that is SIZE. I cannot believe it is now as big/bigger than a RL and 4000 lbs in AWD form. Wow.

dunnojack

$34000 is an appropriate price in this range.
same price as the Lexus ES

a fully loaded ES runs past $40k too.

bigger car means people can eat more burgers and still fit. win-win.


actually, i take that back. it has grown in length, but that's not really reflected in interior space. there's only an extra inch of rear leg room.

paradoxically, trunk space is small at 13 cuft.
so wtf did all the extra length go? the big *** bumpers? yeah that must be it.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

I don't think this car is overpriced. It offers a LOT more than, especially sh-awd version, the other 'entry' luxury cars like IS, 3, G and even GS.

But whoever does an aftermarket grill will make a killing.

LexusChris

iTrader: (1)

Who will buy the RL now.Sales are already slow just imagine now with this new TL.

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

They've pretty much given up on the current gen RL at this point. Now that this monstrosity is out, I'm sure the focus is on the next gen.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

I think everyone knows, including Acura, that the RL isn't going to sale regardless. The new RL is already in the make so this current generation means nothing to them.

dunnojack

if this is the same size as the accord, it isn't that large.

the accord doesn't look big at all in person

4TehNguyen

iTrader: (1)

fully loaded SH-AWD is $42k, I can get a fully loaded IS350 higher than that, I dont see whats the shock. SH-AWD is a pretty advanced drivetrain. An IS350 weighs 3600 lbs without AWD, the new TL is 6 inches longer than the old one and its still under 4k pounds with the SH-AWD drivetrain. Numbers are reasonable to me

dunnojack

eh....... at least some of the ugly details are lost in a white TL:

ST430

If it wasn't for that hideous snout, I'd consider this my next car.... MMYC refresh anyone?

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

I really feel like the side profile is a dead ringer for a Nissan. Almost identical to both the Altima and Maxima.

dunnojack

how about that 2 tone look......... blaaaaaaaaghck




is this supposed to be a Ferrari look? brown leather supposed to make it look more expensive?

LexFather

It also offers a lot less.
1. Still based off the Accord (like the ES Camry connection)
2. Still built in Ohio
3. Still an old 5 speed auto
4. Still an old engine bumped to 3.7 liters with less power
5. No true push button start

No one can tell the difference between most any AWD system unless they really push the car at the track or the car is out of control on the road. For Acura that means 95% of the time its 70% to the front wheels, 30% to the rear. Audi is 50/50. Lexus/Infiniti is 30/70.

An aftermarket grill won't help b/c IMO, the ENTIRE car is just a huge mess. Its not even adding lipstick to a pig. Its adding LIPS to a pig.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

It's shocking because the TL use to be priced cheaper than that. We're talking $42k for a non-type S model. The last TL-S fully loaded cost maybe the same or a hair less. I'm afraid to see how much the Type S model will cost.

GSteg

iTrader: (15)

There are few cars out there with this combination. Lexus had them in the 2nd gen GS and 2nd gen SC. They called it the saddle interior. I think its an acquired taste. At first I HATED it until I saw it in person, then I fell in love.