2009 Acura TL thread (merged threads, painted beak)
#541
The painted beak is a definite improvement...sadly.
Poor, poor Acura finally started making their cars less boring and took a risk with their new designs after much criticism. We'll see how they buying public responds. So far the auto enthusiast websites think the new Acuras are ugly.
Didn't they test these designs on focus groups?
Poor, poor Acura finally started making their cars less boring and took a risk with their new designs after much criticism. We'll see how they buying public responds. So far the auto enthusiast websites think the new Acuras are ugly.
Didn't they test these designs on focus groups?
#545
2.) This is ONE MONTH only. Let's see how the TL does in the coming months. The TSX debuted strongly in the first month, and sales have been horrible since.
3.) This is still far below Acura's goal of achieving 70K sales. They won't even be close to that goal.
#548
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I've spent a significant amount of time cleaning up this embarassing thread from personal attacks and ugly commentary and I'm asking each person who choses to post in this thread from this point forward to keep this thread mature, polite and impersonal.
If you've already made your viewpoint known (I love Acura, I hate Acura, I love this car, I hate this car, I love the beak, I hate the beak) and aren't making any valuable contribution to the conversation other than to restate that same point or argue with other members, I ask you to please exit this thread.
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#550
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2009-acura-tl/
By Michael Curwood
November 5, 2008 - 4,091 views
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The Acura TL is like the brainy girl in math class. If you’d told your friends you had the hots for her, they’d have stifled laughs, paused and said “who?” Since the turn of the century, the Accord-based Acura TL has been the deeply sensible alternative to premium-priced imports. But the TL’s fans knew the joys of stealth smarts: a super-smooth six powering a superbly-crafted cabin sitting atop a well-built and reliable chassis. So, will channeling the spirit of Frank Lloyd Wright help or hinder the TL’s ongoing quest for luxury car legitimacy?
I’m convinced that the TL’s designers held a séance with the Prairie School architect, discussed organic architecture, hit the crack pipe and emerged with “Keen Edge Dynamic.” Sure, Acura has finally cured the TL’s aesthetic invisibility. But at what cost? Viewed dead-on from the rear, the TL’s creased butt looks like a Cars character, complete with mouth (Aura-like trunk strip) and eyes (rear headrest). It’s weird, true and freaky.
And then there’s the front…
The TL’s new snowplow snout will have your eye out, and transfer traces of satin chrome paint flecks in the process. Some west coast Acura dealers are painting the power plenum prow the same color as the body for a more, uh, understated look. No surprise there.
The ‘09 TL has received the obligatory dimension creep, upping overall length six inches and increasing track over an inch at both ends. Somehow, this engorgement hasn’t delivered significant increases in the TL’s interior space or overall weight. Blame it on the over-collegenated bumpers.
The TL’s cabin will look familiar to anyone who’s seen the new Accord (odd that). Ablaze with blue accent lighting and the standard Acura button central center console, Acura’s given all the well-situated controls a facelift. In a nod to Audi, the TL holds the interior’s pants up with a silver-sheen belt that dashes its way around the midline before plunging like a twisted thong into the center console. Unfortunately, the fauxcarbialuminumfiber’s pores are so big even Proactive polyfilla couldn’t smooth them out.
The tech package is the bread-and-butter option of Acura’s bread-and-butter saloon. The champagne GPS head-unit has been upgraded from DVD to a hard-drive based system, rewarding TL loyalists with quicker loading and a sharper screen. Even ADD-afflicted technophobes can enjoy easy access to almost every computer-controlled function, including the TL’s signature kick-*** ICE and dual-zone air conditioning.
AcuraLink has new zones in its database. A Doppler radar function lets you play on-the-road prognosticator or gives you a three-day forecast while listening to the modern equivalent of quadraphonic: DVD-A. (Dark Side of the Moon and The Nightfly need apply.) And once you program the TL’s voice command system, you can live life button-free.
Keyless start has been added to the already impressive Keyless Access System’s list of duties. It’ll unlock doors, position the driver’s seat and outside mirrors, select audio and navigation settings and calls you Mother on a weekly basis, all without taking the key out of your pocket.
Ordering an Acura TL is still McDonald’s happy meal easy. Pick a color; add the optional technology package to the front wheel-drive base model and Acura throws in the other toys “free.” Done. At least until the Super-Handling All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) option arrives. And it can’t arrive soon enough.
The TL’s trick six-cylinder engine rises from 3.2 to 3.5-liters, setting loose 280 horses and 254 ft. lbs. of torque. Fuel economy stays the same, despite the extra power and weight. And it’s the right answer for snow-belt dwelling consumers. On the downside, the sweet-spinning six redlines alarmingly quickly, with the front end squirming like a bag of squirrels from the git-go. Acura claims to have reduced torque steer in first and second gears, but it felt more like (or, like more) traction control to me.
Acura slipped the TSX’ new electric steering system into its stealth flagship. Turn-in is precise and predictable at urban speeds, but road feel is reduced. At higher speeds, the weighting applied feels artificial and unintuitive. This is not your father’s Buick. But it could be yours.
I kid. A bit. Aside from takeoff squirm, the TL’s chassis remains composed and confident. The stoppers are powerful, and there are airbags aplenty. But the TL lacks the chassis chops, the joie de conduire, to compete with the Germans; its arrow-shaped snout is now aimed squarely at Lexus.
Again, the SH-AWD system could well be the TL’s ace in the hole. For an extra $3500, the system will undoubtedly make far better use of the six’s extra thrust. If so, the question then becomes, why opt for the more expensive RL? And when the RL gets the V8, the question becomes, why buy a TL? The answer, of course, is rooted in household economics, and the economics of comparison shopping. Not passion. New look or not, there’s your problem with Acura.
By Michael Curwood
November 5, 2008 - 4,091 views
Research / Buy This Car
Get Dealer-Free
Purchasing Now
Get : 2009 Acura TL Pricing
Get : 2009 Acura TL Specifications
The Acura TL is like the brainy girl in math class. If you’d told your friends you had the hots for her, they’d have stifled laughs, paused and said “who?” Since the turn of the century, the Accord-based Acura TL has been the deeply sensible alternative to premium-priced imports. But the TL’s fans knew the joys of stealth smarts: a super-smooth six powering a superbly-crafted cabin sitting atop a well-built and reliable chassis. So, will channeling the spirit of Frank Lloyd Wright help or hinder the TL’s ongoing quest for luxury car legitimacy?
I’m convinced that the TL’s designers held a séance with the Prairie School architect, discussed organic architecture, hit the crack pipe and emerged with “Keen Edge Dynamic.” Sure, Acura has finally cured the TL’s aesthetic invisibility. But at what cost? Viewed dead-on from the rear, the TL’s creased butt looks like a Cars character, complete with mouth (Aura-like trunk strip) and eyes (rear headrest). It’s weird, true and freaky.
And then there’s the front…
The TL’s new snowplow snout will have your eye out, and transfer traces of satin chrome paint flecks in the process. Some west coast Acura dealers are painting the power plenum prow the same color as the body for a more, uh, understated look. No surprise there.
The ‘09 TL has received the obligatory dimension creep, upping overall length six inches and increasing track over an inch at both ends. Somehow, this engorgement hasn’t delivered significant increases in the TL’s interior space or overall weight. Blame it on the over-collegenated bumpers.
The TL’s cabin will look familiar to anyone who’s seen the new Accord (odd that). Ablaze with blue accent lighting and the standard Acura button central center console, Acura’s given all the well-situated controls a facelift. In a nod to Audi, the TL holds the interior’s pants up with a silver-sheen belt that dashes its way around the midline before plunging like a twisted thong into the center console. Unfortunately, the fauxcarbialuminumfiber’s pores are so big even Proactive polyfilla couldn’t smooth them out.
The tech package is the bread-and-butter option of Acura’s bread-and-butter saloon. The champagne GPS head-unit has been upgraded from DVD to a hard-drive based system, rewarding TL loyalists with quicker loading and a sharper screen. Even ADD-afflicted technophobes can enjoy easy access to almost every computer-controlled function, including the TL’s signature kick-*** ICE and dual-zone air conditioning.
AcuraLink has new zones in its database. A Doppler radar function lets you play on-the-road prognosticator or gives you a three-day forecast while listening to the modern equivalent of quadraphonic: DVD-A. (Dark Side of the Moon and The Nightfly need apply.) And once you program the TL’s voice command system, you can live life button-free.
Keyless start has been added to the already impressive Keyless Access System’s list of duties. It’ll unlock doors, position the driver’s seat and outside mirrors, select audio and navigation settings and calls you Mother on a weekly basis, all without taking the key out of your pocket.
Ordering an Acura TL is still McDonald’s happy meal easy. Pick a color; add the optional technology package to the front wheel-drive base model and Acura throws in the other toys “free.” Done. At least until the Super-Handling All Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) option arrives. And it can’t arrive soon enough.
The TL’s trick six-cylinder engine rises from 3.2 to 3.5-liters, setting loose 280 horses and 254 ft. lbs. of torque. Fuel economy stays the same, despite the extra power and weight. And it’s the right answer for snow-belt dwelling consumers. On the downside, the sweet-spinning six redlines alarmingly quickly, with the front end squirming like a bag of squirrels from the git-go. Acura claims to have reduced torque steer in first and second gears, but it felt more like (or, like more) traction control to me.
Acura slipped the TSX’ new electric steering system into its stealth flagship. Turn-in is precise and predictable at urban speeds, but road feel is reduced. At higher speeds, the weighting applied feels artificial and unintuitive. This is not your father’s Buick. But it could be yours.
I kid. A bit. Aside from takeoff squirm, the TL’s chassis remains composed and confident. The stoppers are powerful, and there are airbags aplenty. But the TL lacks the chassis chops, the joie de conduire, to compete with the Germans; its arrow-shaped snout is now aimed squarely at Lexus.
Again, the SH-AWD system could well be the TL’s ace in the hole. For an extra $3500, the system will undoubtedly make far better use of the six’s extra thrust. If so, the question then becomes, why opt for the more expensive RL? And when the RL gets the V8, the question becomes, why buy a TL? The answer, of course, is rooted in household economics, and the economics of comparison shopping. Not passion. New look or not, there’s your problem with Acura.
#551
interesting review. I have to agree on the car not quite having the chassis feel of the top German sedans. But for a Japanese car, it comes strikingly close, certainly closer than the ES and IS (you can discount that IS-F, but even that is more numb than the c63/m3/rs4). Acura has always built a more responsive car than lexus, but they lack the overall brand marque and polish of Lexus products. Just my opinion.
Last edited by FKL; 11-06-08 at 09:58 PM.
#552
This week, we just painted our first TL grill (black on black) and put it in the showroom. Looks sweet. After living with the new TL day after day, I have to say it considerably grows on you and I really like it much more now than the day it first rolled off the truck for the first time.
People are just naturally hesitant toward change and the new TL simply uses a design language we haven't seen. Soon, many of you will be much more positive about it.
Let's just give it time. Many people thought the last generation looked weird when it first came out. Later, it became a classic.
People are just naturally hesitant toward change and the new TL simply uses a design language we haven't seen. Soon, many of you will be much more positive about it.
Let's just give it time. Many people thought the last generation looked weird when it first came out. Later, it became a classic.
#553
This week, we just painted our first TL grill (black on black) and put it in the showroom. Looks sweet. After living with the new TL day after day, I have to say it considerably grows on you and I really like it much more now than the day it first rolled off the truck for the first time.
People are just naturally hesitant toward change and the new TL simply uses a design language we haven't seen. Soon, many of you will be much more positive about it.
Let's just give it time. Many people thought the last generation looked weird when it first came out. Later, it became a classic.
People are just naturally hesitant toward change and the new TL simply uses a design language we haven't seen. Soon, many of you will be much more positive about it.
Let's just give it time. Many people thought the last generation looked weird when it first came out. Later, it became a classic.
and the new one? it's just like telling me about the 745 when it first came out. bangle kept on saying that's the car of the future. man, i don't need a car of the future, i will worry about that 10 yrs from now. give me a car that fits now
#554
This week, we just painted our first TL grill (black on black) and put it in the showroom. Looks sweet. After living with the new TL day after day, I have to say it considerably grows on you and I really like it much more now than the day it first rolled off the truck for the first time.
People are just naturally hesitant toward change and the new TL simply uses a design language we haven't seen. Soon, many of you will be much more positive about it.
Let's just give it time. Many people thought the last generation looked weird when it first came out. Later, it became a classic.
People are just naturally hesitant toward change and the new TL simply uses a design language we haven't seen. Soon, many of you will be much more positive about it.
Let's just give it time. Many people thought the last generation looked weird when it first came out. Later, it became a classic.