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Old 04-29-08, 10:51 AM
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Default R&T Test: IS-F vs M3 vs C63 vs RS4

Article here:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6696

Pdf of test results here:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...comp_chart.pdf

Summary:
1. C63 - 380.9 points
2. M3 - 376.7 points
3. RS4 - 375.4 points
4. IS-F - 367.9 points
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If we just talk about performance, IS F is a very close third behind the M3 according to this comparo.
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What a crock of ****.
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Originally Posted by INHOCJP
Article here:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6696

Pdf of test results here:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...comp_chart.pdf

Summary:
1. C63 - 380.9 points
2. M3 - 376.7 points
3. RS4 - 375.4 points
4. IS-F - 367.9 points
I love it!
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Old 04-29-08, 01:03 PM
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I haven't driven the RS4, but my findings with the C63, IS-F, and M3 are pretty close to theirs, though I didn't drive them to quite the limits they did. The C63 clearly had the most impressive engine, the BMW the best chassis, and the IS-F the best overall build quality.
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I still haven't driven an RS4 but the S4 with the Quattro is fun as hell. Handling on that car is top notch. The MB is beast in a straight line but they STILL need 3 pedals to make work better.
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Originally Posted by SilverBull
The MB is beast in a straight line but they STILL need 3 pedals to make work better.
The E63 has so much torque that adding a third pedal wouldn't make much difference.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The E63 has so much torque that adding a third pedal wouldn't make much difference.
MMarshall..i think you keep confusing the E63 with the C63 Two different monsters my friend!
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Originally Posted by MR_F1
What a crock of ****.
Why is that?
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Originally Posted by MR_F1
What a crock of ****.

I 2nd that..
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Originally Posted by adam8065
MMarshall..i think you keep confusing the E63 with the C63 Two different monsters my friend!
Sorry....you're correct. My mistake.

(And, yes, I should know the difference.....I just drove an E63)
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wow.....now this review make me want to get a M3 for sure now.
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Only 13 points separating the top from the bottom. That is a subjective win, not a beating. I can live with that.

Again, for a first effort from Lexus, this is amazing. The IS-F has yet to embarrass itself in any comparo. The reviewers love it, they just prefer the Germans.

Top Gear reviewed all 4 and COULD NOT PICK A WINNER. The guy said at the end "the IS-F draws me".

EVO just gave the IS-F 5 stars, unheard of for a Lexus.
 
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Originally Posted by INHOCJP
Why is that?
Because of the objective results they skewed the subjective ones. I call BS, 13 points from top to bottom or not.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Only 13 points separating the top from the bottom. That is a subjective win, not a beating. I can live with that.

Again, for a first effort from Lexus, this is amazing. The IS-F has yet to embarrass itself in any comparo. The reviewers love it, they just prefer the Germans.

Top Gear reviewed all 4 and COULD NOT PICK A WINNER. The guy said at the end "the IS-F draws me".

EVO just gave the IS-F 5 stars, unheard of for a Lexus.

The IS-F is a great car, as long as the roads are glass-smooth, and is the first Lexus I've seen that approxomates the BMW steering feel. But remember, most of the auto mags do their comparisons on a track whose surface is well-maintained. Even R&T remarked in the article, though, like I did in my review, on how stiff the IS-F underpinnings were when they took it out on normal, not-so-smooth roads. The one I drove hopped up and down over bumps like a porpoise.

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