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Old 04-29-08, 01:42 PM
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Is it the new GTR(Skyline) or Acura(Honda) NSX or Toyota Supra. Let me hear your thoughts on this one. I was on Jaylenosgarage and listening to his review of the new GTR and thought about this one.
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Supercar is a very vague term. If it were up to me I'd say the 2000GT is the first Japanese supercar but that's just me.
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+1 for 2000GT!!
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
Supercar is a very vague term. If it were up to me I'd say the 2000GT is the first Japanese supercar but that's just me.
Exactly.

No one can touch the type of dramatic influence that the 2000GT left in the automotive industry.
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Originally Posted by SilverBull
Is it the new GTR(Skyline) or Acura(Honda) NSX or Toyota Supra. Let me hear your thoughts on this one. I was on Jaylenosgarage and listening to his review of the new GTR and thought about this one.
I don't agree with Jay about the NSX not being a supercar or Japan's first, his only reason was it did not have enough horsepower but he fails to mention the car was very light and so balanced and tuned that it put everybit of that horsepower down. Plus when the NSX first came out 270hp was pretty high and respectable, it may not be that much today but back then especially coming from a NA v6 it was very impressive. The NSX also beat its target Ferrari 348 in all performance categories even though the Ferrari used a v8. The NSX beat most of its other competition too and it did not need big v8 or v12s.

The NSX was exotic when it came out. It was mid engined, had highly advanced exotic technology like Vtec, aluminum body, titanium connecting rods,etc. Its main competition was Ferrari. In some ways it is still more of an exotic/supercar then the GTR.

To me the NSX was the first true exotic and supercar from Japan and without a doubt the best sports car to come out of Japan and one of the best in the world.
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I don't agree with Jay about the NSX not being a supercar or Japan's first, his only reason was it did not have enough horsepower but he fails to mention the car was very light and so balanced and tuned that it put everybit of that horsepower down. Plus when the NSX first came out 270hp was pretty high and respectable, it may not be that much today but back then especially coming from a NA v6 it was very impressive. The NSX also beat its target Ferrari 348 in all performance categories even though the Ferrari used a v8. The NSX beat most of its other competition too and it did not need big v8 or v12s.

The NSX was exotic when it came out. It was mid engined, had highly advanced exotic technology like Vtec, aluminum body, titanium connecting rods,etc. Its main competition was Ferrari. In some ways it is still more of an exotic/supercar then the GTR.

To me the NSX was the first true exotic and supercar from Japan and without a doubt the best sports car to come out of Japan and one of the best in the world.
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Also the NSX was devloped by Senna and tested on the Nurenburgring. This kind of extensive testing and the advanced technology makes the NSX a supercar.
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NSX FTW'!!!!

Goddamn that car is awesome. Even looking for a decent used one doesn't come cheap
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Originally Posted by UDel
I don't agree with Jay about the NSX not being a supercar or Japan's first, his only reason was it did not have enough horsepower but he fails to mention the car was very light and so balanced and tuned that it put everybit of that horsepower down. Plus when the NSX first came out 270hp was pretty high and respectable, it may not be that much today but back then especially coming from a NA v6 it was very impressive. The NSX also beat its target Ferrari 348 in all performance categories even though the Ferrari used a v8. The NSX beat most of its other competition too and it did not need big v8 or v12s.

The NSX was exotic when it came out. It was mid engined, had highly advanced exotic technology like Vtec, aluminum body, titanium connecting rods,etc. Its main competition was Ferrari. In some ways it is still more of an exotic/supercar then the GTR.

To me the NSX was the first true exotic and supercar from Japan and without a doubt the best sports car to come out of Japan and one of the best in the world.
I totally agree with you.
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NSX, no doubt, is a super car by any measure. Arguing against it makes you look like a fool.
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This is the first.

The Toyota 2000GT was a sports car produced in very limited numbers by Toyota in Japan. First seen at the Tokyo Motor Show of 1965, production vehicles were built between 1967 and 1970. It revolutionized the automotive world's view of Japan, formerly seen as a producer of imitative and stodgily practical vehicles, and showed that the Japanese makers could produce a sports car to rival those of Europe.

Reviewing a pre-production car in 1967, Road & Track magazine summed up the 2000GT as "one of the most exciting and enjoyable cars we've driven", and compared it favorably to the Porsche 911. Today, the car is seen as the first seriously collectible Japanese car, the first "Japanese Supercar", and examples change hands for fairly high prices.



 
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To me, supercar rules are
1: two seater only (other than the MCF1, which had 3)
2: ridiculously expensive
3: a rubbish boot
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is the first.

The Toyota 2000GT was a sports car produced in very limited numbers by Toyota in Japan. First seen at the Tokyo Motor Show of 1965, production vehicles were built between 1967 and 1970. It revolutionized the automotive world's view of Japan, formerly seen as a producer of imitative and stodgily practical vehicles, and showed that the Japanese makers could produce a sports car to rival those of Europe.

Reviewing a pre-production car in 1967, Road & Track magazine summed up the 2000GT as "one of the most exciting and enjoyable cars we've driven", and compared it favorably to the Porsche 911. Today, the car is seen as the first seriously collectible Japanese car, the first "Japanese Supercar", and examples change hands for fairly high prices.




That's beautiful and timeless.
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Old 04-30-08, 09:03 AM
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NSX not a supercar is just jay's opinion. A Corolla is a supercar in my book.
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definitly the 2000GT. The work that went into the interior with Yamaha and the use of rosewood is also beautiful.
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