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Old 05-10-08, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Kudos to Caddy but I share Lee's sentiments.....
Per Lee, you really wouldn't buy one at $15K?
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Old 05-10-08, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by UberNoob
cant wait for this beast to come out
sadly it will not beat IS-F, M3 in sales
perhaps it will beat C63 though lol
I think it will crush IS-F sales because I don't think Lexus is making that many IS-F's are they?
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Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35
For an entry level luxury sedan, I think CTS is way too big. No matter how fast it is, I couldn't picture it as a excellent handling vehicle.
The magnetic control suspension is no joke. WAY more sophisticated and capable than the competition. I believe Audi's R8 also uses it (licensed from GM).
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wow that's fast. anyone know IS-F lap time?
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Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35
For an entry level luxury sedan, I think CTS is way too big. No matter how fast it is, I couldn't picture it as a excellent handling vehicle.
The CTS/G35/TL have always been "too big" for this class. The "value" aspect of bigger for the same price as a IS/C/3 is clear.

Amazingly the A4 is now huge for this glass too, at 185 inches in its new bodystyle.

I find the CTS a level above the G35/TL and nearly on par with the 5/GS/E....
 
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WOW , wished I didn't see those pictures of the three cts-v cars !
Now I really want one !!! I test drove the new is-f two weeks ago and may consider it next year , but unless the 2009 cts-v car is WAY out of my price bracket , I will have to settle for second best .
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Fast means nothing if the car is not well engineered or unreliable. The last-generation CTS-Vs had the unnerving habit of chewing up their differentials....a major, expensive item if not under warranty, and a major inconvienence at best even if warranty-covered.

The new CTS, in general, is a much better car than the old one in many ways, especially in fit/finish...it is one of GM's best new products. ( I reviewed two non-V versions but have not driven the new V). Let's hope, with the new V model, that they've done better durability testing this time on the drivetrain.

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As far as I know , the new cts-v sports a tremec - 6060 manual transmission with a new dual clutch set up . The diff's and the independant half shafts come from the corvette's side of engineering , so durability should not be problem . I better stop dreaming about this car or else I'll take a second mortgage out !!!
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The CTS-V was Cadillac's first attempt at a true luxury sports car. Yes, there were issues. They've been resolved..

Originally Posted by mmarshall
Fast means nothing if the car is not well engineered or unreliable. The last-generation CTS-Vs had the unnerving habit of chewing up their differentials....a major, expensive item if not under warranty, and a major inconvienence at best even if warranty-covered.

The new CTS, in general, is a much better car than the old one in many ways, especially in fit/finish...it is one of GM's best new products. ( I reviewed two non-V versions but have not driven the new V). Let's hope, with the new V model, that they've done better durability testing this time on the drivetrain.
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Amazing numbers on the ring! I've always loved the CTS-V and can't wait to get an opportunity to test drive the new one. This new car will put the M3, C63, IS-F, heck even the M5 back on the trailor.. 60k for this car too?
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

OMG! this could be the first domestic car I will ever give a serious look at.

I am in love.
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Gonna clean up a little bit on the drivetrain details.

It's just a twin-disk clutch at best; and uses a vastly improved T56: the TR6060. The auto-trans *should* be the the 6L90 (what's found in the 3/4 and 1 ton gassers)

The rear end *should* actually be different than the corvette. The mistake with the last gen CTS-V was that it took a C5Z rear, and de-transaxled it, making it a rather weak part in addition to poor geometry and subframe design. The new rear should be more in line with the Holden rears so they will kick plenty of rear.
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Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano
The CTS-V was Cadillac's first attempt at a true luxury sports car. Yes, there were issues. They've been resolved..
We'll find out. Time will tell.
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Looks like I might be going back to a domestic
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Looks like I might be going back to a domestic
Can you afford the kind of mileage a CTS-V will get at today's gas prices?
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