We're all screwed!! (335 owners atleast)
05-24-08, 03:44 AM
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Let me clear it up a little. I read in an earlier post that dealers had to prove your mod caused whatever trouble your having. One or two mods shouldn't void your whole warrenty.
I agree that chipping cars and doing major mods like turbos and crap should void your warrenty, but if I want to put a K&N filter or a better sounding exhaust on my car it shouldn't void my whole warrenty.
I agree that chipping cars and doing major mods like turbos and crap should void your warrenty, but if I want to put a K&N filter or a better sounding exhaust on my car it shouldn't void my whole warrenty.
05-24-08, 08:42 AM
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WTH does that mean?
Och, I bet that the BMW lease agreement covers this and basically says you can't mod the car in a way that takes it away from stock. But I wonder what the penalty is?
Mike, I thought they had fixed this (and then I read that some people were still having trouble). Do you have an update?
5. BMW should step in. BMW is supposedly the "enthusiast" luxury brand and more and more they are stepping away from that. Electronic this and that. Americans had to cry foul to get a manual M5 (where you still can't deactivate the trac control). Heavier cars and the steering is no longer just an automatic win.
05-24-08, 10:06 AM
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05-24-08, 10:50 AM
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05-24-08, 11:35 AM
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05-24-08, 01:36 PM
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As to what the OP 1st said, It would be interesting to know what BMW did to the new ECU and how they can add a program to the old 1 to catch mods, I could see the new one having some sort of hard drive or black box to record any behavior outside of what BMW programed the car for, but the older ECU with a program update, I wonder if anyone with a 335 has noticed a new piece of hardware under the hood
This also seems like it was just a matter of time, countless threads on BMW forums have owners putting mods on cars, leading to odd noises and not running right so they take them to the dealer, with the internet and the obvious they probably realized what was happening.
BMW is the car for enthusiast but where do you draw the line, go to any car forum and everyone wants to know if I should remove my intake before I take it to the dealer, BMW is a little more extreme, nothings change but it's just harder to hide your mistake.
BMW new slogan should be "Don't hate the Player, Hate the Game"
This also seems like it was just a matter of time, countless threads on BMW forums have owners putting mods on cars, leading to odd noises and not running right so they take them to the dealer, with the internet and the obvious they probably realized what was happening.
BMW is the car for enthusiast but where do you draw the line, go to any car forum and everyone wants to know if I should remove my intake before I take it to the dealer, BMW is a little more extreme, nothings change but it's just harder to hide your mistake.
BMW new slogan should be "Don't hate the Player, Hate the Game"
05-24-08, 01:38 PM
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05-24-08, 05:50 PM
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Turning off the DSC is the VERY FIRST thing I do EVERY SINGLE time I start the car. Before I turn on the radio, or fasten my seatbelt. I asked the dealer to disable it permanently, but they told me the ABS would be disabled as well. So the button gets pushed every time the key gets turned.
Suffice it to say that I will NEVER own a BMW in which the traction control is not defeatable. I'm angry enough that there's no off switch in the RX. But at least it's only annoyed me on a few occasions and not attempted to murder me.
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05-24-08, 05:54 PM
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Unless BMW's traction control has changed DRASTICALLY in the past few years, it's dangerous to keep it on. I can't count the number of times the DSC in my 3-series has nearly gotten me killed by completely cutting power while I was in the middle of a left turn with traffic oncoming. It particularly likes to do this in the winter. A small amount slippage or tirespin can make for very efficient driving, but the Bavarian nanny thinks getting T-boned is safer than skidding an inch.
Turning off the DSC is the VERY FIRST thing I do EVERY SINGLE time I start the car. Before I turn on the radio, or fasten my seatbelt. I asked the dealer to disable it permanently, but they told me the ABS would be disabled as well. So the button gets pushed every time the key gets turned.
Suffice it to say that I will NEVER own a BMW in which the traction control is not defeatable. I'm angry enough that there's no off switch in the RX. But at least it's only annoyed me on a few occasions and not attempted to murder me.
Turning off the DSC is the VERY FIRST thing I do EVERY SINGLE time I start the car. Before I turn on the radio, or fasten my seatbelt. I asked the dealer to disable it permanently, but they told me the ABS would be disabled as well. So the button gets pushed every time the key gets turned.
Suffice it to say that I will NEVER own a BMW in which the traction control is not defeatable. I'm angry enough that there's no off switch in the RX. But at least it's only annoyed me on a few occasions and not attempted to murder me.
I can concur to that, I hate VSC in my GS, it nearly got me into accidents on three occasions. Utterly useless and dangerous system.
05-24-08, 07:31 PM
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I don't see what the big deal is. A stock 335i still pulls easily on cars such as the lexus is350 and if you want more power with warranty, you can get the Dinan with full warranty and over 400 torque 