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Old 05-22-08, 03:44 AM
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Lexus Mulls Two Dedicated Hybrid Vehicles


Toyota's upscale Lexus brand is considering the addition of at least two dedicated hybrid vehicles to its rapidly expanding product portfolio, including a premium-priced companion to the Toyota Prius as well as a midsize crossover that could be the industry's first dedicated gas-electric CUV, industry sources tell Inside Line.

Lexus currently offers both conventional and hybrid versions of several existing models but does not market a dedicated hybrid-only vehicle such as the Prius.

The next-generation Prius, which is slated to go into production in Japan in less than a year, is expected to make its world debut in January at the 2009 Detroit Auto Show.

It will be joined at the Detroit show by a new Lexus hybrid, which may also feature Toyota's first use of advanced lithium-ion batteries in place of the current nickel-metal-hydride system.

It is not known if the Lexus hybrid concept for Detroit will be a crossover or, like the Prius, a five-door hatchback sedan, nor whether its sheet metal will reflect the final production styling.

Inside Line has learned that the new Prius is expected to go on sale in North America in late spring 2009, as a 2010 model. The first dedicated Lexus hybrid won't arrive in dealerships until calendar year 2010, according to Japanese sources. A second Lexus hybrid is tentatively slated for production in 2011.

All three models reportedly will be built on an updated version of Toyota's corporate midsize platform, known internally as MC, which underpins the Camry as well as the Lexus RX. The RX currently is offered in both gas and hybrid variants.

The new hybrids from Toyota and Lexus are expected to be powered by a 1.8-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine mated to an electric motor.


The Lexus companion to the Prius will get unique sheet metal with distinctive Lexus styling cues. It will be equipped with more luxurious features and will likely be priced at more than $30,000, according to Japanese press reports.

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Originally Posted by Sens4Miles

Lexus Mulls Two Dedicated Hybrid Vehicles


The new hybrids from Toyota and Lexus are expected to be powered by a 1.8-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine mated to an electric motor.
humm, no whining yet about this....that's a good thing!

4 cyl in a Lexus?......oh the humanity!!!!
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Originally Posted by bagwell
humm, no whining yet about this....that's a good thing!

4 cyl in a Lexus?......oh the humanity!!!!
Looks like the car based on the Prius is going to essentially be a rebadge. I have no problems with that. As long as the shape of the body is more Lexus-like and the interior design is worthy of a Lexus.

Overall, I think a 50mpg Lexus sedan starting at a little over 30k is a great idea..

The CUV hybrid sounds interesting. There's been talk about them bringing out a CUV for awhile to compete with the X3, RDX, & EX and perhaps they've now decided to make it a dedicated hybrid. It won't be a high performer, but it may very beat the others in terms of sales.

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I could see such a CUV being high performer. The 2.5L V6 is very efficient. There is no reason why such a vehicle couldn't weight 4000 lbs, put out 240 HP and still average 30 MPG. It might not be as powerful as an FX, but it could hold its own I think.
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i'm concerned about the lexus prius ... are there any concept drawings around?

never mind, i found this pic and remembered we've already seen the concept, and i'm still concerned


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All three models reportedly will be built on an updated version of Toyota's corporate midsize platform, known internally as MC, which underpins the Camry as well as the Lexus RX.

This is good. This is without a doubt the most widely used platform in the US and should help save costs.

The new hybrids from Toyota and Lexus are expected to be powered by a 1.8-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine mated to an electric motor.

So I guess the Lexus hybrids will have less power than the Camry hybrid, but better fuel economy.
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At today's gas prices of $4.00, these things should sell well. If gas goes to $6.00 or so, these things should be sold out before launch.
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Originally Posted by carguy101
So I guess the Lexus hybrids will have less power than the Camry hybrid, but better fuel economy.
Well the important point is that the new Prius/Lexus hybrid will have probably 50 more HP than the outgoing Prius. And if it can stay below 3000 lbs. that will make for some good acceleration. I wouldn't be upset though if Lexus sacraficed a 1 MPG and added 10 HP over the Prius just for showmanship.
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Originally Posted by bagwell
humm, no whining yet about this....that's a good thing!

4 cyl in a Lexus?......oh the humanity!!!!
Just wait a day or two
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Originally Posted by Faymester
i'm concerned about the lexus prius ... are there any concept drawings around?

never mind, i found this pic and remembered we've already seen the concept, and i'm still concerned


to me that's UGLY. I don't think the final production version will be like that
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The Lexus "Prius" isn't supposed to look like the Prius at all. They've learned from GM's mistakes.
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Originally Posted by bagwell
humm, no whining yet about this....that's a good thing!

4 cyl in a Lexus?......oh the humanity!!!!
It is a HYBRID, not a stand alone 4-cylinder. Also Lexus doesn't depend on it to help increase sales.

Stop with the flame baiting.
 
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Originally Posted by Faymester
i'm concerned about the lexus prius ... are there any concept drawings around?

never mind, i found this pic and remembered we've already seen the concept, and i'm still concerned


i seriously doubt the final product will look like that. we have learned from past experience that early renderings never closely resemble the real thing. but i sure hope the production version will look better than that.
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So the Lexus version of the Prius won't be here until calendar year 2010?
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I doubt Lexus will give its hybrid the different sort of styling the Prius gets. They have, in general, been making attractive designs (at least from the exterior).
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