Ltuned1200

4.6L 375hp rwd power/drive-train
52:48 weight distribution
195.9" length
17/25mpg for the v8 <-combined mpg = LS600H
Keyless entry & ignition
Heated & cooled seats
8 airbags
XM HD radio & nav traffic
USB & IPOD & Bluetooth connectivity
Enough dash controls to do the trick, yet avoid clutter
Leather wrapped dashboard
Multi-function ****
8" HDD Navigation w/ 30GB HD
speech dialog system
Reverse back-up camera
Adaptive HIDs
Automatic wipers & windshield defroster
Rear power sunshade
17 speaker 550watt Lexicon audio (also found on the Rolls Royce Phantom)
5-link virtual kingpin front suspension
5-link rear suspension
Amplitude dampening shocks
Double-paned glass on windshield & doors for sound insulation
Six anti-vibration pads on the roof
0-60 5.6s (C&D)
1/4 mile 14.1@103 mph (C&D)
70-0mph 169ft (C&D)
300ft skidpad .86 g's (C&D)

Bean

iTrader: (1)

the G8 GT traps more than 103mph in the 1/4 mile? Can someone show me where it trapped higher than the Genesis? Maybe quicker since I've seen lower ETs and 0-60 from the G8; but we've seen only a couple reviews of the Genesis.

Ltuned1200

I wouldn't be suprised at all if the G8 trapped higher and beat the Genesis. Does the G8 GT qualify for Gas guzzler tax like the LS2 GTO's?

EDIT:
Genesis 4.6
0-60 5.6s (C&D)
1/4 mile 14.1@103 mph (C&D)
70-0mph 169ft (C&D)
skidpad .86 g's (C&D)
EPA 17/25

G8 GT
0-60 5.2s (C&D)
1/4 mile 13.8@104 mph (C&D)
70-0mph 163ft (C&D)
skidpad .84 g's (C&D)
EPA 15/19

So it does appear that the G8 has better low end acceleration and braking. Suprisingly cornering is flopped from what I anticipated. There is a pretty big difference in the EPA fuel economies between the two.

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

Automobile tested the G8 at 0-60 in 5.8 and 1/4 mile in 14.3 @ 103mph. That's also the slowest time I have seen for the car.

Many other times I have seen for the car are more like 13.7 or 13.8 @ 104 or 105MPH.

Getting down to the nitty gritty with the Genesis on those numbers, as I'm sure they are about in a dead heat. Fastest 0-60 I have seen for the G8 is 5.3


Also, can you please post your references for the G8 GT being a gas hog? It packs the 6.0L V8 with Active Fuel Management, and all of the accounts I have seen rate this as a relatively frugal V8.

Ltuned1200

Maybe frugal for this size engine. In all seriousness, the more stringent 08 EPA standards may account for the gas mileage estimates being lower than it "should" be.

dunnojack

since when does a camry do a sub 6 to 60?

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

Since 2007?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkzg_NK7WM

And that is one of many. Most of the owners at toyotanation are getting sub 6 second times consistently.

Ltuned1200

Main point is that the Genesis has performance to keep up with the similar class cars for the most part.

whoster

So your basis of a brand rests on their crappiest car from 2001. A RENTAL at that. Are you, in all honesty, serious?

So you were on the moon when the Hyundai Sonata beat the family sedan comparisons last year right? Because what on earth were those magazines thinking when they awarded a Hyundai with that honor! What nerve! Who do they think they are?


Let's recall your favorite brand, Infiniti. In 2001---they....were... I don't know what they were doing really. Still nothing but a blip--even behind Acura back then. rebadged Maximas and Pathfinders, and a tiny, underpowered "entry-level luxury" sedan called a G20. Their flagship Q45 was even a less extraordinary car back then--if anything, the generation BEFORE was the Q45's peak.

When the G35 was brought out in 2003, that's when people actually started caring about Infiniti. Never mind the lack of a proper flagship or a mid-size sedan worth caring about, the G35 became the "little car that could" for Infiniti. Last year with the revamped M series, Infiniti is at least making an effort to stay serious, and to get to a Tier-1 Level maker. The newly redesigned G35/37 are fantastic cars, there's no denying that.


But if we turn the perspective around for a little bit, and think about the barely mediocre offerings from Infiniti just 8 years ago--let's see how far Hyundai has come. Their Sonata won awards. In America. Their SUVs aren't the best in class--but people care and compare them to others. Their compact cars--are actually worth looking at from a value standpoint. The Azera can compete with an Avalon. From the company that can barely keep a car running, according to your own words, they've become an award-winning company that the press and manufacturers alike have begun to notice as a giant in development.

The Genesis, may not be the greatest car in the world. It isn't meant to be. It's only Hyundai's prelude into the luxury segment--Hyundai's "G35"--if you can't even give them THAT....then I don't know anymore.

MPLexus301

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This is the case with almost all new vehicles going under the new rating method...not just the G8.

Ltuned1200

You are correctamundo

dunnojack

so that makes it a hair faster than a GS350.......

a 268hp fwd beats a 303hp car with a little more torque and 300lbs more weight?


just because it says 5.7 in the title doesn't mean it's that.

http://www.online-stopwatch.com/ < time it yourself. hit the Start button as soon as the tach moves. I see 6.9 seconds. not 5.7

Ltuned1200

There are many variabes that could be attributed to this.

Decline
low altitude
temperature
operator error for the stopwatch

dunnojack

i know. that's why my 6.8 clock is as good as his 5.7.

my car does 60 in 4.9 seconds, stock engine. i don't have those fancy measuring gadgets. you'll just have to take my word.


anyway, i don't want to stray off topic

Sens4Miles

Oh, did they do a long term reliability comparison? What kind of comparison are you talking about? initial quality? Well, maybe the initial quality is good, but it says nothing about long term dependability. I've driven many Hyundais and I'm not impressed with any of them. The newer ones are "nice" but offer nothing really over the competition.

Yea yea yea, you didn't like Infiniti's products from 7 years ago, I get it. However, the quality of Infinitis have always been top notch. In fact one would argue that the interior quality of the 2001 models were far superior than the 2004 models. Regardless, they were always reliable and always performed well (beating Lexus even a couple of times) in long term durability. Anyway, back on topic..

More like Hyundai's Chrysler 300. So anyway, when are you planning on buying one?