Electric cars are the future, says Nissan
#46
Lexus Champion
and when will 99% of the charging be done??
OFF-PEAK !!!!!!
no worries unless you use electricity like Al Gore.
Nuclear powerplants take 5 - 7 years to build.
The big deal is governemtal approvals. The mechanics and technology are "on-the-shelf", ready to drop into your facility once it is in place.
Actual construction is also hampered by the "red tape" of documentation of everything in very minute detail during the build. The paperwork is staggering, and chews up a bunch of engineering time. Also, there are security requirements for some information, so this slows the process.
The humor is that, after beginning the construction of the Diablo Canyon power reactor facility in California, the geologists discovered it lay dangerously close to a dynamic but minor fault in the Pacific Plate. According to the public broadcasts at the time, in spite of the mountains of verification, validation, certification, inspection, and all the back-checking, these clowns STILL installed the front reactor vessels supports on the rear pillars, and then had only the rear reactor supports to place on the front pillars. They kept it a secret until after all the supports were installed, the engineering of the revised support plan was validated, and the inspectors had signed-off on everything, before the firm went public with the mistake.
#48
Lexus Test Driver
Off-peak for the vast majority of Americans is only possible if the EVs are at home. Then we have even greater distribution problems, like all those I mentioned previously, than just getting electricity out to recharging stations.
Well actually, many of the new nuclear plants being built in Europe are done in 4 years or less. But as you say yourself, the time it takes is irrelevant. Nuclear power is never going to gain traction in the United States as long as we grant envirowhackos the power to deny it. Heck, new coal power plants have enough opposition as it is. Also, from the "potential" side of things, mining uranium is also a lengthy process that, while separate from construction, is a process that must be completed for operation.
Those are adapters, not transformers. Adapters that change 220V to 110V or vice versa do nothing but change the voltage. The power flow is the same whether it is 220V or 110V (the current changes inversely proportional to the voltage), so using an adapter won't speed up EV charging time. This is very basic science... it's not like a 220V line magically delivers more power than a 110V line just because it has more voltage.
Those are adapters, not transformers. Adapters that change 220V to 110V or vice versa do nothing but change the voltage. The power flow is the same whether it is 220V or 110V (the current changes inversely proportional to the voltage), so using an adapter won't speed up EV charging time. This is very basic science... it's not like a 220V line magically delivers more power than a 110V line just because it has more voltage.
#49
Lexus Test Driver
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We actually use just as much or more electricity at night than during the day. During the day we are at work. My wife comes home in the evening, so that is when the TV, and AC go on. We leave at least 2 ACs on all night, then turn them off during the day when we are at work.
Unfortunately there will never be a nuclear power plant in my state.
Unfortunately there will never be a nuclear power plant in my state.
#50
Do they make a fortune now when people notice (and ignore) that they are running out of gas? I find it a little funny that you think people are going to be so naive as to drive this vehicle when the charge is close to empty. If you're going to own an EV, you're probably going to drive less than 100 miles per day (about 95% of us do) and realize that like a cell phone, you will need to charge your car up if you plan on using it.
:-).
future is hybrid... with bigger electric engines and batteries...
#51
There can only be One
For the EV guys:
http://wcbstv.com/national/June.Heat.Wave.2.743514.html
he Big Apple continues to bake under a heat wave. CBS 2's John Elliott said temperatures around the region were expected to tie the record high of 97, but humidity will make it feel between 100 and 105.
The heat is causing problems across the tri-state, including power outages and school closings.
More than 12,000 Long Island Power Authority customers were still without power Monday morning. Con Ed reported about 1,500 outages in Brooklyn. Some customers were also without power in Westchester County.
Because of the heat, all of the schools in Bloomfield are closed. Meanwhile schools in Clifton, Wayne, Bloomingdale, Ringwood, West Paterson, Little Falls, Passaic, Boonton, Englewood, Glen Rock, Lodi, New Milford and Wyckoff will dismiss their students early.
There were no delays reported at area airports early Monday morning.
Thunderstorms Sunday night tossed trees on train tracks, delayed airline flights for hours and knocked out power to thousands of homes and businesses.
One tree toppled across a car in a picnic area at Bethpage State Park on Long Island, sending two occupants to a hospital with what appeared to be minor injuries, regional state parks director George Gorman said Sunday.
Storms packing wind gusts estimated at up to 50 mph swirled through the area between about 4 p.m. and 7 p.m., leaving battered trees and other damage, especially on eastern Long Island. Suffolk County police said reports of downed trees and power lines cropped up across the area.
The storms uprooted or snapped as many as 150 of Bethpage State Park's trees and left limbs hanging from many more, forcing the closure of three of the park's five golf courses Monday, Gorman said. At Robert Moses State Park in Babylon, two lifeguard stands toppled and two storage sheds overturned, he said.
Five fallen trees cut off some service Sunday evening on the Long Island Rail Road, and lightning strikes scrambled signals and caused delays of up to an hour on other parts of the commuter line. Delays at John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty airports stretched to more than 2 hours, while the backup was more than 90 minutes at LaGuardia.
More than 24,000 Long Island Power Authority customers were without power late Sunday. Consolidated Edison reported about 1,900 outages in New York City and Westchester County. The bulk were in Brooklyn, where a series of smoking manholes also shut down some subway lines and caused major delays on others earlier in the day. The utility said it wasn't clear whether the manhole troubles were weather-related.
The utility said it could take until Monday night to restore power completely.
Sunday's high temperature in Central Park hit 93 degrees, just shy of the 95-degree record for the date, set in 1933.
Melanie Duncan, a visitor from Toronto, lounged under a tree in the park with two friends, eating ice cream and complaining about the heat.
"It's making us drink a lot more beer," Duncan said.
The weather didn't thin the crowds at Sunday's Puerto Rican Day Parade, but a Fire Department spokesman said paramedics treated more marchers than usual for heat exhaustion.
New Yorkers found several ways to keep cool - fans, air conditioning, a pool, a pond, a dip at the beach.
Coney Island was packed, but those expecting to escape their furnace-like homes were dealt a shock. The heat is on even at the ocean's edge.
"It feels extremely hot," said Michelle Depra. "But we are still happy cause I got my whole family here."
So how do you stay cool at the beach? Lots of water. That's the trick," said Chimene Gonzalez. "Yes it is."
Another good idea would be slapping on sun block.
"I'm trying not to get melanoma later in life," said Mark Dvorak while applying sun block.
The heat wave should break by midweek, with high temperatures falling back into the 80s.
During a heat wave in late July and early August of 2006, 40 people died directly from heat stroke, and the sometimes triple-digit temperatures contributed to the deaths of another 60 people, city health officials said.
he Big Apple continues to bake under a heat wave. CBS 2's John Elliott said temperatures around the region were expected to tie the record high of 97, but humidity will make it feel between 100 and 105.
The heat is causing problems across the tri-state, including power outages and school closings.
More than 12,000 Long Island Power Authority customers were still without power Monday morning. Con Ed reported about 1,500 outages in Brooklyn. Some customers were also without power in Westchester County.
Because of the heat, all of the schools in Bloomfield are closed. Meanwhile schools in Clifton, Wayne, Bloomingdale, Ringwood, West Paterson, Little Falls, Passaic, Boonton, Englewood, Glen Rock, Lodi, New Milford and Wyckoff will dismiss their students early.
There were no delays reported at area airports early Monday morning.
Thunderstorms Sunday night tossed trees on train tracks, delayed airline flights for hours and knocked out power to thousands of homes and businesses.
One tree toppled across a car in a picnic area at Bethpage State Park on Long Island, sending two occupants to a hospital with what appeared to be minor injuries, regional state parks director George Gorman said Sunday.
Storms packing wind gusts estimated at up to 50 mph swirled through the area between about 4 p.m. and 7 p.m., leaving battered trees and other damage, especially on eastern Long Island. Suffolk County police said reports of downed trees and power lines cropped up across the area.
The storms uprooted or snapped as many as 150 of Bethpage State Park's trees and left limbs hanging from many more, forcing the closure of three of the park's five golf courses Monday, Gorman said. At Robert Moses State Park in Babylon, two lifeguard stands toppled and two storage sheds overturned, he said.
Five fallen trees cut off some service Sunday evening on the Long Island Rail Road, and lightning strikes scrambled signals and caused delays of up to an hour on other parts of the commuter line. Delays at John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty airports stretched to more than 2 hours, while the backup was more than 90 minutes at LaGuardia.
More than 24,000 Long Island Power Authority customers were without power late Sunday. Consolidated Edison reported about 1,900 outages in New York City and Westchester County. The bulk were in Brooklyn, where a series of smoking manholes also shut down some subway lines and caused major delays on others earlier in the day. The utility said it wasn't clear whether the manhole troubles were weather-related.
The utility said it could take until Monday night to restore power completely.
Sunday's high temperature in Central Park hit 93 degrees, just shy of the 95-degree record for the date, set in 1933.
Melanie Duncan, a visitor from Toronto, lounged under a tree in the park with two friends, eating ice cream and complaining about the heat.
"It's making us drink a lot more beer," Duncan said.
The weather didn't thin the crowds at Sunday's Puerto Rican Day Parade, but a Fire Department spokesman said paramedics treated more marchers than usual for heat exhaustion.
New Yorkers found several ways to keep cool - fans, air conditioning, a pool, a pond, a dip at the beach.
Coney Island was packed, but those expecting to escape their furnace-like homes were dealt a shock. The heat is on even at the ocean's edge.
"It feels extremely hot," said Michelle Depra. "But we are still happy cause I got my whole family here."
So how do you stay cool at the beach? Lots of water. That's the trick," said Chimene Gonzalez. "Yes it is."
Another good idea would be slapping on sun block.
"I'm trying not to get melanoma later in life," said Mark Dvorak while applying sun block.
The heat wave should break by midweek, with high temperatures falling back into the 80s.
During a heat wave in late July and early August of 2006, 40 people died directly from heat stroke, and the sometimes triple-digit temperatures contributed to the deaths of another 60 people, city health officials said.
#52
Lexus Fanatic
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and the point of that article with regards to EVs is what? Besides the fact the word electricity is mentioned. The article just shows that NYs electricity system had some bad trouble with mother nature, high winds, high heat, and falling branches shorting out the power. Bad luck for them
#53
Lexus Champion
again.....99% of EV's will be charged OFF-PEAK -- at night.
directly from CONED website...
rates are lowest on off-peak periods: weekends, holidays, and weekdays from 10 p.m. to10 a.m., when usage and the cost of electricity are low.
directly from CONED website...
rates are lowest on off-peak periods: weekends, holidays, and weekdays from 10 p.m. to10 a.m., when usage and the cost of electricity are low.
Last edited by bagwell; 06-09-08 at 11:21 AM.
#54
There can only be One
and the point of that article with regards to EVs is what? Besides the fact the word electricity is mentioned. The article just shows that NYs electricity system had some bad trouble with mother nature, high winds, high heat, and falling branches shorting out the power. Bad luck for them
You keep telling yourself over and over again that most (99%) people will be charging their cars at 10pm at night. You are living in a strange fantasy land.
#55
Lexus Champion
no I keep telling you 99% will charge off peak.
you can plug in anytime you want -- just get a timer to start charging at 10PM
wow, that was hard!
#56
There can only be One
The WORLD is not YOU!
The WORLD doesn't have a garage with a timer.
Hell many people don't even have Timers set up properly for their damn irrigation. How long did it take people to figure out the proper way to record onto VHS via timer? HELL I STILL DON'T KNOW!
Living in the REAL WORLD helps.
#57
Lexus Champion
#58
Lexus Fanatic
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Saying EV dont work because some trees fell on a power line and knocked out power, dunno how that logic even ties into anything. Maybe we should just forget about any electronic device because a tree can fall on a powerline.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 06-10-08 at 10:41 AM.
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