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Old 07-17-08, 04:13 PM
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Default Mercedes to have fully turbocharged lineup by 2010




When it comes to increasing fuel economy, turbochargers are the replacement for displacement. The combination of highly efficient snails and smaller engines provides the power people expect, while reducing the overall weight of the vehicle. Like other automakers that have realized that forced induction is a suitable stop-gap for improving fuel economy, Mercedes-Benz is in the process of developing turbo'd engines that will proliferate throughout its lineup in the next two and a half years.

Thomas Weber, a Daimler board member in charge of research and development told Automotive News, "All our vehicles will have turbocharged engines in series production by the end of 2010 at the latest."

Mercedes is joining BMW and Audi by investing heavily into forced induction, primarily to cope with new fuel economy standards in the U.S. and Europe. But turbos are only going to take them so far. Mercedes plans to introduce hybrids into its lineup towards the close of the decade, beginning with the S-class sedan in 2009. According to Weber, zero-emission vehicles are the automaker's long-term goal and Daimler intends to push heavily towards fuel-cells and electric-powered vehicle in the future, including an electric smart fortwo which will go into production sometime in 2010.
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Old 07-17-08, 04:29 PM
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uhhh so i shouldnt buy my 2009 C350 yet?
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Riiiiiggght. Expect 1 MPG gain...sigh.....
 
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If there were even a little truth to this I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, if you've ever sized injectors for an FI engine and had to figure out the Brake Specific Fuel Consumption (amount of fuel it takes to produce a specified output), you'd realize very quickly that FI engines are inherently not efficient.

Check out RC Engineering's site for calculating injector sizes and see what the BSFC for FI is compared to NA - it's at least 20% more fuel for the same power. I don't call that more efficient at all.
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Yes they will use less fuel, but more than likely you will have to run premium.

Not the best example but:
Legacy GT: 243 HP, 240 Trqs. 18/24
Legacy 3.0R 245 HP, 215 Trqs. 17/24

You're better off with the turbo. More power, slightly better fuel economy. In this case, both choices require 91 octane.
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Old 07-18-08, 12:42 AM
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Adding to what lobuxracer said, perhaps MB is counting on the weight saved from using smaller engines as a way to get more MPG out of their fleet. However, it won't be a significant improvement, that's for sure.
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There is a growing trend in Europe to produce small engines with forced induction. The advantages are generally good power and torque with a relatively low fuel consumption. Look at the Volkswagen TSI technology for example with that 1.4-l engine. Impressive stuff.
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