Impressions Of My Genesis Test Drive
07-28-08, 05:13 PM
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Really? All 3 of my LG cell phones have been flawless. Same goes for my LG washer/dryer.
07-28-08, 08:13 PM
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The steam setting rocks for people who hate to iron (me).
But I digress, we're getting a bit off topic.
But I digress, we're getting a bit off topic.
07-28-08, 09:05 PM
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I'd also like to know how the Navigation system is dated. Go ahead, I'm waiting.
Hint: It's not. I've owned a Mitsubishi, Honda, & Lexus w/ OEM Nav. The Genesis is better than any of them. The screen is nice and bright with very clear graphics/fonts. The backup camera is nice and clear and doesn't take 5-10 seconds to engage *cough, Honda, cough*. The iPod integration is the best I've seen yet, and the controller feels nice and solid and moves with fluid "clicks". (It's actually built by the same supplier as Audi's MMI contoller FWIW). The audio system also sounds very nice, but not noticeably nicer than the base Lexicon system that comes w/ the Premium Package.
Hint: It's not. I've owned a Mitsubishi, Honda, & Lexus w/ OEM Nav. The Genesis is better than any of them. The screen is nice and bright with very clear graphics/fonts. The backup camera is nice and clear and doesn't take 5-10 seconds to engage *cough, Honda, cough*. The iPod integration is the best I've seen yet, and the controller feels nice and solid and moves with fluid "clicks". (It's actually built by the same supplier as Audi's MMI contoller FWIW). The audio system also sounds very nice, but not noticeably nicer than the base Lexicon system that comes w/ the Premium Package.
Your pics really show how far other manufacturers have come in that last few years....Cars like the GS and LS are great cars but cars like the M35, M45, 5 series and now Genesis have really made the GS and LS boring and those cars have not been out too long.
07-28-08, 09:19 PM
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It's Hyundai's first attempt and from what I've seen, they've done one hell of a job. Sure, they're tackling the market very aggressively. One example would be offering a V8 even before Acura/Honda. And they're not going to get it perfect in one shot. Lexus/Toyota can't do that so what makes you think Hyundai would be able to do it on their first try?
07-28-08, 10:29 PM
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07-28-08, 11:42 PM
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We're talking about the v8 Tau here - and you know what? They "might" just do it. I think this engine is going to be excellent. Also keep in mind that competition is much tougher now than it was in 1989. In 1989, everyone was caught looking the other way when the LS400 came out. Not so in this day and age. The S550, LS460 and 750 are all at the top of their game..
This car will succeed where the Phaeton failed because the Phaeton costed far, far too much money. Why not just buy an Audi A8? For Hyundai, there is no alternative and the price is low. How much less expensive was the Phaeton than an Audi A8? How much less expensive is a Genesis compared to <enter model name here>? There's a big difference...
This car is going to steal plenty of sales from the Toyota Avalon, Buick Lucerne and Chrysler 300.. It's also going to steal sales from those who would have STRAINED to buy a Mercedes, Lexus or BMW before this hit showrooms - and showed people that they could afford luxury without being wealthy (just like Lexus did in 1989). It's also going to steal SOME sales from Cadillac, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus and the rest of 'em - how? The people who've owned the cars and haven't noticed their lives improve any as a result - will gladly give the Genesis a try.
If you're wealthy, than you know at least a few wealthy people who drive cars that don't fit their perceived image. These people will also be interested in the Genesis.. This car is going to sell plenty - and other manufacturers are worried about it.
This car will succeed where the Phaeton failed because the Phaeton costed far, far too much money. Why not just buy an Audi A8? For Hyundai, there is no alternative and the price is low. How much less expensive was the Phaeton than an Audi A8? How much less expensive is a Genesis compared to <enter model name here>? There's a big difference...
This car is going to steal plenty of sales from the Toyota Avalon, Buick Lucerne and Chrysler 300.. It's also going to steal sales from those who would have STRAINED to buy a Mercedes, Lexus or BMW before this hit showrooms - and showed people that they could afford luxury without being wealthy (just like Lexus did in 1989). It's also going to steal SOME sales from Cadillac, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus and the rest of 'em - how? The people who've owned the cars and haven't noticed their lives improve any as a result - will gladly give the Genesis a try.
If you're wealthy, than you know at least a few wealthy people who drive cars that don't fit their perceived image. These people will also be interested in the Genesis.. This car is going to sell plenty - and other manufacturers are worried about it.
07-29-08, 07:54 AM
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Good points Sal!
On a somewhat related sidenote, when walking out of Costco yesterday they had a new C300 parked in front advertising their Auto Buying Program. The MSRP was $37.7k. It had MB-Tex (vinyl) seating and no Nav. I'm sorry, but give me a Genesis anyday over that!
On a somewhat related sidenote, when walking out of Costco yesterday they had a new C300 parked in front advertising their Auto Buying Program. The MSRP was $37.7k. It had MB-Tex (vinyl) seating and no Nav. I'm sorry, but give me a Genesis anyday over that!
07-29-08, 08:45 AM
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This car is going to steal plenty of sales from the Toyota Avalon, Buick Lucerne and Chrysler 300
The Genesis is going to force Lexus/infiniti to bring down their prices while offering some more for the money.
07-29-08, 09:27 AM
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I think Toyota really needs to rethink the whole ES during the next redesign. I think the vehicle is priced a little too high for what you get especially when the competition offers a lot.
The new Lincoln MKS is superb, Acura TL, Infinit M35 can all be had for about the same money as an ES. I would like to see the ES become Avalon sized. Car like the Genesis put a lot of pressure on Toyota to try to sell a Lexus at a high mark up.
Either move Lexus way upscale or bring it down a little.
The L-finese styling is a dud and needs to be overhauled.
The new Lincoln MKS is superb, Acura TL, Infinit M35 can all be had for about the same money as an ES. I would like to see the ES become Avalon sized. Car like the Genesis put a lot of pressure on Toyota to try to sell a Lexus at a high mark up.
Either move Lexus way upscale or bring it down a little.
The L-finese styling is a dud and needs to be overhauled.
07-29-08, 10:08 AM
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I think Toyota really needs to rethink the whole ES during the next redesign. I think the vehicle is priced a little too high for what you get especially when the competition offers a lot.
The new Lincoln MKS is superb, Acura TL, Infinit M35 can all be had for about the same money as an ES. I would like to see the ES become Avalon sized. Car like the Genesis put a lot of pressure on Toyota to try to sell a Lexus at a high mark up.
Either move Lexus way upscale or bring it down a little.
The L-finese styling is a dud and needs to be overhauled.
The new Lincoln MKS is superb, Acura TL, Infinit M35 can all be had for about the same money as an ES. I would like to see the ES become Avalon sized. Car like the Genesis put a lot of pressure on Toyota to try to sell a Lexus at a high mark up.
Either move Lexus way upscale or bring it down a little.
The L-finese styling is a dud and needs to be overhauled.
