Hate toward imports?
#1
Hate toward imports?
The title says it all, who do some people resent imports so much, more so japanese cars than any other. And most of these people tend to be people who drive ford/chevy/dodge pickup trucks with no reason what so ever than to have a bigger car than any one else on the road, or people who think anyone who drives and import is destroying the American economy or is funding terrorism, although these are extremes and not all of these are true. I mean there are people who drive german car's that don't like some japanese cars , but like at least a few and have respect for them, but people who don't, well they just can't get it through their heads that american cars should be the only ones on the road. i mean i was talking to a guy on facebook whoes father drove an is250. he said it was nice, high quality, but said that any american car was better because the is' rear view was bad, still nice guy though. Do you guys catch my drift, or have you ever experienced this, cause it bugs the heck out of me. I mean i tried to like American cars, i really did but after a few we were tired of problems and went to imports. Although, i do respect old school american cars like the eldorado, continental, and the bel air along with others....... but my hate for hummers and escalades is never ending, the escalde only because it doesn't do what an suv should be able to do, go offroad and im not talking mud trails and 6 feet of snow, im talking driving down the road in 7 inches of snow and not losing control
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i dont hate either type of car
i dislike people who buy what ever car and then proceed to tell everyone else why their car is superior to EVERYTHING ... and if you disagree you must be a complete moron
i dislike people who buy what ever car and then proceed to tell everyone else why their car is superior to EVERYTHING ... and if you disagree you must be a complete moron
#5
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What many people simply don't realize is that today there is truly a global auto insustry. While, of course, certain vehicles sold in Europe and Japan (mostly minicars) are not available in the U.S. or Canada, for the most part, there is no such thing as a purely "American" or purely "foreign" car any more....the complexity of parts and supply sourcing is incredibly complex.
Take the Saturn Astra, for example, which I recently reviewed.......an "American" compact sold and marketed by GM's Saturn Division. It has an American nameplate.....fine. It was designed in Germany by GM's Opel division. The engine is built in Hungary. Transmissions come from Austria. Other major parts come from Germany and numerous Eueopean nations. Final asembly is a plant in Belgium. The finished car is sold, in slightly tweaked versions, as a British Vauxhall Astra, German Opel Astra, and, of course, an American Saturn Astra. So, unlike the more-or-less truly American Saturn S-series of the 1990's, today's car buyer rolls out of a Saturn dealership thinking he/she has an all-American compact, when in reality he/she is driving a conglomeration of parts from all over Europe.
The Astra, by no means, is alone....this is more or less typical of the majority, if not most, of today's vehicles. Even the big "All-American" Ford Crown Victoria........popular with police and taxi operators, and your classic stereotype baseball/hot-dogs/ apple-pie American dinosaur....actually has more foreign-sourced parts in it than domestic (that was done for CAFE reasons).
Another small car I recently reviewed, the Chevy Aveo, is the same thing.....a foreign-sourced car with an American nameplate. It is built in South Korea, by the Daewoo Corporation, for Chevy, primarily because Daewoo does not sell in the U.S. any more under its own nameplate, and GM has a financial interest in it.
So, my point is, if you think you are buying an "American" vehicle at that Ford, GM, or Chrysler dealership..............you will very likely have to think again.
Take the Saturn Astra, for example, which I recently reviewed.......an "American" compact sold and marketed by GM's Saturn Division. It has an American nameplate.....fine. It was designed in Germany by GM's Opel division. The engine is built in Hungary. Transmissions come from Austria. Other major parts come from Germany and numerous Eueopean nations. Final asembly is a plant in Belgium. The finished car is sold, in slightly tweaked versions, as a British Vauxhall Astra, German Opel Astra, and, of course, an American Saturn Astra. So, unlike the more-or-less truly American Saturn S-series of the 1990's, today's car buyer rolls out of a Saturn dealership thinking he/she has an all-American compact, when in reality he/she is driving a conglomeration of parts from all over Europe.
The Astra, by no means, is alone....this is more or less typical of the majority, if not most, of today's vehicles. Even the big "All-American" Ford Crown Victoria........popular with police and taxi operators, and your classic stereotype baseball/hot-dogs/ apple-pie American dinosaur....actually has more foreign-sourced parts in it than domestic (that was done for CAFE reasons).
Another small car I recently reviewed, the Chevy Aveo, is the same thing.....a foreign-sourced car with an American nameplate. It is built in South Korea, by the Daewoo Corporation, for Chevy, primarily because Daewoo does not sell in the U.S. any more under its own nameplate, and GM has a financial interest in it.
So, my point is, if you think you are buying an "American" vehicle at that Ford, GM, or Chrysler dealership..............you will very likely have to think again.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-28-08 at 12:06 PM.
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What many people simply don't realize is that today there is truly a global auto insustry. While, of course, certain vehicles sold in Europe and Japan (mostly minicars) are not available in the U.S. or Canada, for the most part, there is no such thing as a purely "American" or purely "foreign" car any more....the complexity of parts and supply sourcing is incredibly complex.
Take the Saturn Astra, for example, which I recently reviewed.......an "American" compact sold and marketed by GM's Saturn Division. It has an American nameplate.....fine. It was designed in Germany by GM's Opel division. The engine is built in Hungary. Transmissions come from Austria. Other major parts come from Germany and numerous Eueopean nations. Final asembly is a plant in Belgium. The finished car is sold, in slightly tweaked versions, as a British Vauxhall Astra, German Opel Astra, and, of course, an American Saturn Astra. So, unlike the more-or-less truly American Saturn S-series of the 1990's, today's car buyer rolls out of a Saturn dealership thinking he/she has an all-American compact, when in reality he/she is driving a conglomeration of parts from all over Europe.
The Astra, by no means, is alone....this is more or less typical of the majority, if not most, of today's vehicles. Even the big "All-American" Ford Crown Victoria........popular with police and taxi operators, and your classic stereotype baseball/hot-dogs/ apple-pie American dinosaur....actually has more foreign-sourced parts in it than domestic (that was done for CAFE reasons).
Another small car I recently reviewed, the Chevy Aveo, is the same thing.....a foreign-sourced car with an American nameplate. It is built in South Korea, by the Daewoo Corporation, for Chevy, primarily because Daewoo does not sell in the U.S. any more under its own nameplate, and GM has a financial interest in it.
So, my point is, if you think you are buying an "American" vehicle at that Ford, GM, or Chrysler dealership..............you will very likely have to think again.
Take the Saturn Astra, for example, which I recently reviewed.......an "American" compact sold and marketed by GM's Saturn Division. It has an American nameplate.....fine. It was designed in Germany by GM's Opel division. The engine is built in Hungary. Transmissions come from Austria. Other major parts come from Germany and numerous Eueopean nations. Final asembly is a plant in Belgium. The finished car is sold, in slightly tweaked versions, as a British Vauxhall Astra, German Opel Astra, and, of course, an American Saturn Astra. So, unlike the more-or-less truly American Saturn S-series of the 1990's, today's car buyer rolls out of a Saturn dealership thinking he/she has an all-American compact, when in reality he/she is driving a conglomeration of parts from all over Europe.
The Astra, by no means, is alone....this is more or less typical of the majority, if not most, of today's vehicles. Even the big "All-American" Ford Crown Victoria........popular with police and taxi operators, and your classic stereotype baseball/hot-dogs/ apple-pie American dinosaur....actually has more foreign-sourced parts in it than domestic (that was done for CAFE reasons).
Another small car I recently reviewed, the Chevy Aveo, is the same thing.....a foreign-sourced car with an American nameplate. It is built in South Korea, by the Daewoo Corporation, for Chevy, primarily because Daewoo does not sell in the U.S. any more under its own nameplate, and GM has a financial interest in it.
So, my point is, if you think you are buying an "American" vehicle at that Ford, GM, or Chrysler dealership..............you will very likely have to think again.
So is it better to to buy a Toyota built in the US so US workers assembled it or a Ford built in Mexico?
Last edited by bagwell; 07-29-08 at 08:43 AM. Reason: spelling!
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#8
^^^ that is what i said, on facebook on a group that covered this whole thing and they still persisted that more money gos toward japan than the u.s. and tht there is currency munipulation making it unfair for american cars, not sure how that works out though personally, it just sort of bugs me, just because you got an american badge on the car, doesn't mean it's as american as you think
#9
I once saw a really cool diagram of where different model cars/brands are made, and you could see all the american brands being made in south america vs a lot of the japanese cars being made in the US. Wish I could find that diagram again
#10
Lexus Champion
i think it's silly. a true enthusiast appreciates all cars no matter where they're built. i run into the bias a lot though since i'm on a dodge diesel truck forum too and thsoe guys are always against imports or ricers. i usually keep my mouth shut becuase i'm definitley in the minority over there but sometimes i have to say something because it's ridiculous.
i've owned just about every brand of car over my lifetime and always liked them all for whatever their positive aspects were.
i've owned just about every brand of car over my lifetime and always liked them all for whatever their positive aspects were.
#11
Lexus Fanatic
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Good. That shows you were thinking.
That's one reason why me and others on CAR CHAT do car reviews....to help people decide those questions. The most important things when buying a vehicle, IMO, is what you get for your money, and if that vehicle is suitable for your needs or not. All else, as I see it, including country or countries of origin, is secondary and superfluous .
Good. That shows you were thinking.
So is it better to to buy a Toyota built in the US so US workers assembled it or a Ford built in Mexico?
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-29-08 at 12:26 PM.
#12
I get annoyed at the people who think they are better than me for buying a Focus, Cobalt, etc. and that they are keeping Americans working. Yeah, your Focus was made in Mexico. My Legacy was made in Indiana, by Americans.
#13
Lexus Fanatic
The Subaru plant in Lafayette, IN that produced your Legacy (the same plant that built my Outback), now produces Toyota Camrys as well, since Toyota bought out part of Subaru.
#14
Yeah I am wondering if the Camry hybrid will be produced there one day since supposedly a Legacy hybrid (via Toyota technology) is coming. Which would be perfect since the Tribeca is also made there. Subaru could offer both of those vehicles in hybrid form and save the money of having to retool multiple plants.
Kinda dissapointed that Subaru's own hybrid, the TPH was cancelled. So much promise, but then they are a small company that can only afford so much.
Kinda dissapointed that Subaru's own hybrid, the TPH was cancelled. So much promise, but then they are a small company that can only afford so much.
#15
Lexus Fanatic
Funny because I hate american cars. I guess it goes both ways. Buying American means buying the best product for the best price. Thats why I only by cars from lexus, infiniti, or acura. I wont even buy a german car. Great design, poor reliability, and over priced. What I care about is who designed it. The american car companies couldnt come up with reliable designs if their lives depended on it. Too bad it probably does at this point. You reap what you sew