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Old 08-15-08, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
Wow....the SC interior is GORGEOUS in these photos....

WOW!
The '09 IS250/350 will have that interior combo...
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Old 08-15-08, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
I think it is way to early to be introducing a Pebble Beach addition on your flagship car. This tells me that the car is just not selling well or the design is lackluster.. I can understand adding a Pebble Beach edition to aging platforms like the SC or RX but the LS...come one..that is your flagship
I think it is a sign that the flagship has been a failure. How many LS600hL's have you seen on the road? I've seen a grand total of zero, yet I see S600's, S55's, 760i's, and S8's regularly. I find it amusing that the PB edition LS is basically the "launch edition" with a different plaque cheaply glued to the center stack. At least on the SC the PB emblem is embedded into the wood trim as opposed to stuck on top.

The choice of special amenities is also disappointing. I agree with the guy who said that if I was luggage or golf ***** or knives, I'll buy them. This has been the one problem with Lexus special editions (be they Coach, or Platinum, or whatever)--the exclusivity is nice, but the gimmies are gimmicks.
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There are only 50 Pebble Beach edition LS 600h Ls being made, just as there were only 100 Launch Edition LShs. That's 150 units, a small number as far as overall LS sales are concerned. By contrast, that's 300 Lexus SC Pebble Beach editions for 2008; previously there were 400 units of the SC Pebble Beach edition.

In 1997, two years after the intro of the 2LS, a Coach edition of the LS was offered, in greater numbers...it was advertised on TV, had 5 color choices, etc. that likely was to prop up sales. But for the LSh, with the Launch Edition at the start and the Pebble Beach edition for the second year, sounds more like niche marketing to me. A similar comparison can be made to the 2005 S-Class Saks Edition which was limited to 20 units. And contrast with the 1,000 units of the 2009 Diamond White Special Edition S550 coming later this year.

The Pebble Beach special edition might have something to do for LSh sales, but this year Lexus is doing something different by offering ES, RX, LS, and SC Pebble Beach editions. It's not just the SC as in past years.

Incidentally, I've seen a handful of LS 600h Ls around the SoCal area, maybe it was a fluke but in the past two weeks I've seen three, and one S55.

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Originally Posted by Iceman
I think it is a sign that the flagship has been a failure. How many LS600hL's have you seen on the road? I've seen a grand total of zero, yet I see S600's, S55's, 760i's, and S8's regularly. I find it amusing that the PB edition LS is basically the "launch edition" with a different plaque cheaply glued to the center stack. At least on the SC the PB emblem is embedded into the wood trim as opposed to stuck on top.

The choice of special amenities is also disappointing. I agree with the guy who said that if I was luggage or golf ***** or knives, I'll buy them. This has been the one problem with Lexus special editions (be they Coach, or Platinum, or whatever)--the exclusivity is nice, but the gimmies are gimmicks.
I've seen quite a few LS600hL's, a lot more S600, S55's, not too much 760, and I don't remember seeing an S8
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They both look nice... but, damn... the SC needs a facelift! It's had the same look for a long time now...
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a few extra grand for a pebble beach emblem. They can wake up next. If it doesnt add power, looks, performance, more luxury then its worth nothing. I hate golf. Other than getting to drive the golf cart I am not into it
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Old 08-15-08, 10:53 PM
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The SC really has the best interior color combinations out of all the Lexus lineup. This scheme needs IMO to be in the LS 460 & most defintely in the GS lineup.

anyone noticed the SC has new side mirrors? I actually like the SC 430. still is a hear turner, atlease it turns my head.
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Old 08-15-08, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
Wow....the SC interior is GORGEOUS in these photos....

WOW!
Shame about the exterior though.
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Old 08-15-08, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Koma
The LS needs a drop.
It's the same problem as the GS350AWD - somehow Lexus cannot package AWD without making the front like an SUV.

And looking at that LS600hL - it just doesn't do it for me. Maybe it's the ugly wheels, poor fitment, LACK of exterior details... even the interior looks too plasticky for a car that expensive. I know it's an engineering marvel but cars at that price have to invoke an emotional response, and to me, it just doesn't.

The SC needs a drop after seeing the images.
It needs a lot more than that.
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Old 08-15-08, 11:43 PM
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I think it is a sign that the flagship has been a failure. How many LS600hL's have you seen on the road? I've seen a grand total of zero, yet I see S600's, S55's, 760i's, and S8's regularly.
I think its a sign of failure too. The car has only been on the market for two model years and they are now adding a pebble beach edition. I think Lexus has realized that this whole of idea of v12 power from a v8/hybrid does not sell all that well.... If you are going to make v12 power than just simply make a v12. IMO they marketed it wrong...but yeah its way to early for a pebble beach edition

Now Lexus is realizing that they need a dedicated hybrid model.
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Old 08-15-08, 11:46 PM
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I've seen one LS600hL in Cambridge in Harvard Sq. I've never seen a 760 on the road, I've never seen a S600 on the road but I have seen S55s.
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Originally Posted by Koma
I've seen one LS600hL in Cambridge in Harvard Sq. I've never seen a 760 on the road, I've never seen a S600 on the road but I have seen S55s.
I've seen several LS600hLs. They look really sharp, since they were not
a bleh color like Truffle Mica. Plus the 7 spoke wheels on the hybrid looks
good.

Why not offer a real exclusive color like metallic green or orange? LOL
and orange SC might spice up that aging design.
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Old 08-16-08, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by marshmallo
I've seen several LS600hLs. They look really sharp, since they were not
a bleh color like Truffle Mica. Plus the 7 spoke wheels on the hybrid looks
good.

Why not offer a real exclusive color like metallic green or orange? LOL
and orange SC might spice up that aging design.
A cool "green" design would be kinda cool. A dark emerald color or a jade color.
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Originally Posted by 5gears-IS
My God! The SC still has the cassette player??
GS does too. And no factory iPod integration. In 2008, this is crazy.
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