Buying a Beater
#1
Buying a Beater
I found a 1996 Chevy Cavalier. I actually detailed it some time ago, and the person is now offering it to me for $1,000. Its clean, needs paint, very minor rust (which in NY is no big deal on a winter beater) and passes NYS Emissions. It runs drives and looks pretty decent. It is black, with A/C, Auto trans, and thats about it. I know its a chevy and one of the worst cars interior wise, but i need a junker to putter around on post with. Whats your opinion?
Oh and it has 146,000 miles, all fluids look excellent, trans fluid is excellent. the individual also has oil change and service recipts for the last 5 years. thoughts?
Oh and it has 146,000 miles, all fluids look excellent, trans fluid is excellent. the individual also has oil change and service recipts for the last 5 years. thoughts?
#3
Agreed. That's about what this car is worth. 146K on a typical Chevy/GM 4-cylinder engine or transmission (Corolla-based Chevy/Geo Prizms excepted) probably doesn't mean a whole lot of life left, even with regular service and good fluids.
If you get another 20,000-30,000 miles or so out of the drivetrain, IMO you will have gotten your thousand bucks worth....the more, of course, the better. In fact, you'll probably pay more than $1000 in gas alone.
If you get another 20,000-30,000 miles or so out of the drivetrain, IMO you will have gotten your thousand bucks worth....the more, of course, the better. In fact, you'll probably pay more than $1000 in gas alone.
Last edited by mmarshall; 08-25-08 at 09:22 PM.
#4
I had a Chevy Cavalier once for a couple of months. It's a great "I don't give a ******" car that you can park anywhere and doesn't drink alot of gas. As long as the engine and tranny are in good shape, you're good to go. Offer him $800 and see if the seller bites.
#5
Agreed. That's about what this car is worth. 146K on a typical Chevy/GM 4-cylinder engine or transmission (Corolla-based Chevy/Geo Prizms excepted) probably doesn't mean a whole lot of life left, even with regular service and good fluids.
If you get another 20,000-30,000 miles or so out of the drivetrain, IMO you will have gotten your thousand bucks worth....the more, of course, the better. In fact, you'll probably pay more than $1000 in gas alone.
If you get another 20,000-30,000 miles or so out of the drivetrain, IMO you will have gotten your thousand bucks worth....the more, of course, the better. In fact, you'll probably pay more than $1000 in gas alone.
EDIT: A few pix-
Last edited by ArmyofOne; 08-26-08 at 05:33 AM.
#6
Car looks great and for the kind of second car you need, it seems perfect. Big pluses here are that you know the previous owner and have the service records. You probably won't find these on many other $1K cars. A beater is all about practicality. It's not a high performance car, it's not a long-distance runner, and it may not even be your dream car, but it gets you from here to there without fuss. It's like an old dog, kinda ugly, getting older, and maybe a little smelly, but intensely loyal and doesn't offer any surprises. You learn to appreciate that.
We did the same thing on our minivan - just needed dependable local transportation for maybe a hundred miles a month, no point in buying anything expensive. My sister-in-law bought the van new, it always was dealer-serviced, and we had all the records. We bought it 10 years old, added tires, battery, master cylinder, and paint, plus a few small projects that brought the total cost of the car and maintenance for the last six years to less than $3000. That's a cost-to-own of about $42/month, plus gas and insurance. Considering the depreciation cost of a new or nearly-new car for only limited service, it's pretty hard to beat a beater.
We did the same thing on our minivan - just needed dependable local transportation for maybe a hundred miles a month, no point in buying anything expensive. My sister-in-law bought the van new, it always was dealer-serviced, and we had all the records. We bought it 10 years old, added tires, battery, master cylinder, and paint, plus a few small projects that brought the total cost of the car and maintenance for the last six years to less than $3000. That's a cost-to-own of about $42/month, plus gas and insurance. Considering the depreciation cost of a new or nearly-new car for only limited service, it's pretty hard to beat a beater.
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#8
You say you can repair/replace transmissions. Do you have a Certified ASE rating?
Winters and road treatments in upper NY state are notoriously brutal on vehicles. Take it in the garage (if it is heated), grab a hose, and flush off the underside and body as much as possible. Also make sure the battery stays as fully charged as possible....you will need plenty of CCA (cold cranking amps) to get the engine going at zero or below temperatures.
Last edited by mmarshall; 08-26-08 at 07:40 AM.
#9
LOL!!! Anyone else notice that this car has been completely de-badged. Even the Cavalier didn't want Chevy's name on it. In all seriousness,, the car looks good and for $1000 that beater should serve your purposes well. The fact that you know the original owner and there are service records is a big plus. Buy it and run it til the wheels fall off of it.
#11
Of course it is possible that this car has that much life left in it. Sorry if I was unclear..... I wasn't necessarily saying otherwise. I was just pointing out that, with most Chevy-GM 4-cylinders and transmissions, you can't expect a 200,000 + mile lifetime out of them like a typical Honda or Toyota. 150-180K is usually the limit....sometimes less than that. Your car, though, could easily be an exception.....from what you say, it sounds pretty good, especially for a $1000 car.
You say you can repair/replace transmissions. Do you have a Certified ASE rating?
Winters and road treatments in upper NY state are notoriously brutal on vehicles. Take it in the garage (if it is heated), grab a hose, and flush off the underside and body as much as possible. Also make sure the battery stays as fully charged as possible....you will need plenty of CCA (cold cranking amps) to get the engine going at zero or below temperatures.
You say you can repair/replace transmissions. Do you have a Certified ASE rating?
Winters and road treatments in upper NY state are notoriously brutal on vehicles. Take it in the garage (if it is heated), grab a hose, and flush off the underside and body as much as possible. Also make sure the battery stays as fully charged as possible....you will need plenty of CCA (cold cranking amps) to get the engine going at zero or below temperatures.
as far as ASE goes, i have never taken any of the exams, and do not have any kind of official training other than in the army. however, complicated as they are, automatic transaxles are still machines, and with the right manuals, parts,time, money and enough beer, i can fix almost anything . The transmission fluid has been flushed 5x in the life of the car, not powerflushed. the car has NOT been in NY until last year, it was in the virginia beach area.
LOL!!! Anyone else notice that this car has been completely de-badged. Even the Cavalier didn't want Chevy's name on it. In all seriousness,, the car looks good and for $1000 that beater should serve your purposes well. The fact that you know the original owner and there are service records is a big plus. Buy it and run it til the wheels fall off of it.
#15
LOL!!! Anyone else notice that this car has been completely de-badged. Even the Cavalier didn't want Chevy's name on it. In all seriousness,, the car looks good and for $1000 that beater should serve your purposes well. The fact that you know the original owner and there are service records is a big plus. Buy it and run it til the wheels fall off of it.
Also agree that drive train is near the end of its life, the 2.4 was pretty tourquy when I drove it.