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Old 08-27-08, 11:40 PM
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The Dodge Viper ACR runs a record-breaking 7:22 lap around the Nurburgring
http://www.motortrend.com/av/feature...deo/index.html

gtr what?
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Old 08-28-08, 05:03 AM
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Impressive car. Impressive time. *NOT* an impressive run.

1. Driver was into the rev limiter constantly
2. driver missed a gear, lost almost a full sec.
3. Cars tires were scraping on the body constantly.
4. On the straight-away, driver was into the rev limiter for several seconds.
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so a better driver would get a even better time then?
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Old 08-28-08, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wolverine
so a better driver would get a even better time then?
Or, even the same driver with fewer mistakes. Yes, I believe the car can be driven better and faster.
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
Impressive car. Impressive time. *NOT* an impressive run.

1. Driver was into the rev limiter constantly
2. driver missed a gear, lost almost a full sec.
3. Cars tires were scraping on the body constantly.
4. On the straight-away, driver was into the rev limiter for several seconds.
1. All the times he was at the rev limiter, there was a corner coming up, and it could have been more beneficial to not upshift since immediately having to downshift would cost time and could unsettle the car and affect exit speed.
2. I think i saw him miss gears twice. The way he was shifting, it looks like it takes a lot of effort to move that lever.
3. Car's fault, not the driver's.
4. Again, car's fault for not having a tall enough gear.

It was funny to see how much he was bouncing in his seat during the back straightaway.

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Old 08-28-08, 09:31 AM
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Is this like breaking the one minute mile, no one thought it could be done but soon as it was everyone could do it
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Just in time for Chrystler to unload the viper. I wonder what company is going to buy it.
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Originally Posted by EDGE2
Is this like breaking the one minute mile, no one thought it could be done but soon as it was everyone could do it
Are you talking about running? I don't think anyone has broken a 1 minute mile yet. That is awfully fast
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Old 08-28-08, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
Are you talking about running? I don't think anyone has broken a 1 minute mile yet. That is awfully fast
Correct 4-minute mile...
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so stripped out race car only beats a daily driveable street car by 7 sec on a laptime near 7.5min. Not that impressive
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Mehh....I agree with ^^^^^^
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Originally Posted by MazdaSteve
Mehh....I agree with ^^^^^^
Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
so stripped out race car only beats a daily driveable street car by 7 sec on a laptime near 7.5min. Not that impressive
....haters
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Old 08-28-08, 05:16 PM
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The ZR1 ran a 7:26 and is FAR more comfortable to drive and isn't stripped at all - in fact it's more lux'd up than the Z06.

While that's still technically slower, for 4 extra seconds I'll take the ZR1 every time.
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Strip out an R35 GTR and see what it'll run. That would be a comparison...
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
so stripped out race car only beats a daily driveable street car by 7 sec on a laptime near 7.5min. Not that impressive
my thoughts exactly- nice ride though
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