lexus is behind in interior conveniences
08-30-08, 03:46 PM
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i just noticed the KIA from the other thread has a nice portable music player integration straight from the factory. usb port and all other connectors.
......not found on any lexus vehicle.
so now, lexus interior has nothing that can't also be found on a cheap korean car.
navigation = ordinary.
tape player = wtf already....
mark lev = whoopty doo.
more tech in a kia???? say what?!?!
it seems like toyota is withholding new tech from being incorporated into the lexus cars.
whatever happened to lexus being 4 years ahead on gadgets and trickling them down toward cheaper models?
......not found on any lexus vehicle.
so now, lexus interior has nothing that can't also be found on a cheap korean car.
navigation = ordinary.
tape player = wtf already....
mark lev = whoopty doo.
more tech in a kia???? say what?!?!
it seems like toyota is withholding new tech from being incorporated into the lexus cars.
whatever happened to lexus being 4 years ahead on gadgets and trickling them down toward cheaper models?
08-30-08, 04:22 PM
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I am not disagreeing that Lexus is behind with offering these features. You do realize most Americans probably still don't have a MP3 player. Most are bought by the same people over and over.
Now lets talk about how Lexus leads in these catagories. LED lighting, yes, Lexus did it first. Now everyone else is doing it.
The gauges. The Malibu rental I'm driving now has copied it.
Automatic Tilt and telescoping wheel. Yes Lexus came with that first too and now everyone has it.
Push Button Start. Lexus was one of the first if not the first to have total keyless entry. Now Altimas have it.
Lexus NAV has never been perfect but has always been near tops or arguably tops since 1998.
Lexus stero systems were unparalleled, another first. Today everyone has top of the line audio systems.
It is very hard to continue to lead in this area and its hard to stand out as this tech is getting cheaper and cheaper to ad.
I guess you have to jump to a loaded LS to get features in a LExus others do not have, like huge rear screen, lounging rear seat, 30gig hardrive, fridge, etc.
Now lets talk about how Lexus leads in these catagories. LED lighting, yes, Lexus did it first. Now everyone else is doing it.
The gauges. The Malibu rental I'm driving now has copied it.
Automatic Tilt and telescoping wheel. Yes Lexus came with that first too and now everyone has it.
Push Button Start. Lexus was one of the first if not the first to have total keyless entry. Now Altimas have it.
Lexus NAV has never been perfect but has always been near tops or arguably tops since 1998.
Lexus stero systems were unparalleled, another first. Today everyone has top of the line audio systems.
It is very hard to continue to lead in this area and its hard to stand out as this tech is getting cheaper and cheaper to ad.
I guess you have to jump to a loaded LS to get features in a LExus others do not have, like huge rear screen, lounging rear seat, 30gig hardrive, fridge, etc.
08-30-08, 05:17 PM
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I guess you have to jump to a loaded LS to get features in a LExus others do not have, like huge rear screen, lounging rear seat, 30gig hardrive, fridge, etc.
I am not disagreeing that Lexus is behind with offering these features. You do realize most Americans probably still don't have a MP3 player. Most are bought by the same people over and over.
08-30-08, 05:21 PM
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most people do. it's been marketed to death. the grandma next door to me has one.
also, there are cheap $30 mp3 players too, which can hook up to a usb port.
i bet that kia boricua has a mp3 file browser and built-in playlist generator that is not ipod-specific. which is good
08-30-08, 07:04 PM
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08-30-08, 07:08 PM
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Anyway, you're right that Lexus offered other features early or first but as they say, it's always a case of "what have you done for me lately?"
By the way, I just saw an ad on TV for Lexus saying $10K off an LS460!
08-30-08, 07:11 PM
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08-31-08, 05:19 AM
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the push button start in a production car was started by honda and the s2000, not sure the exact year.
08-31-08, 05:33 AM
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I am not disagreeing that Lexus is behind with offering these features. You do realize most Americans probably still don't have a MP3 player. Most are bought by the same people over and over.
Now lets talk about how Lexus leads in these catagories. LED lighting, yes, Lexus did it first. Now everyone else is doing it.
The gauges. The Malibu rental I'm driving now has copied it.
Automatic Tilt and telescoping wheel. Yes Lexus came with that first too and now everyone has it.
Push Button Start. Lexus was one of the first if not the first to have total keyless entry. Now Altimas have it.
Lexus NAV has never been perfect but has always been near tops or arguably tops since 1998.
Lexus stero systems were unparalleled, another first. Today everyone has top of the line audio systems.
It is very hard to continue to lead in this area and its hard to stand out as this tech is getting cheaper and cheaper to ad.
I guess you have to jump to a loaded LS to get features in a LExus others do not have, like huge rear screen, lounging rear seat, 30gig hardrive, fridge, etc.
Now lets talk about how Lexus leads in these catagories. LED lighting, yes, Lexus did it first. Now everyone else is doing it.
The gauges. The Malibu rental I'm driving now has copied it.
Automatic Tilt and telescoping wheel. Yes Lexus came with that first too and now everyone has it.
Push Button Start. Lexus was one of the first if not the first to have total keyless entry. Now Altimas have it.
Lexus NAV has never been perfect but has always been near tops or arguably tops since 1998.
Lexus stero systems were unparalleled, another first. Today everyone has top of the line audio systems.
It is very hard to continue to lead in this area and its hard to stand out as this tech is getting cheaper and cheaper to ad.
I guess you have to jump to a loaded LS to get features in a LExus others do not have, like huge rear screen, lounging rear seat, 30gig hardrive, fridge, etc.
As far a Toyotas go. I think Toyota has pretty much debuted things like air suspension, adjustable ride control, led this and that, power telescoping steering etc on Lexus vehicles.
I am pretty sure Toyota did use some of the stuff first on cars like the Supra (TEMS can someone verify?) and Land Cruiser.
IMO a Lexus is basically a top line Toyota. A Toyota with a very high design budget.
But I think the point of this thread is that Toyota really needs to start making all Toyota with all the features that a Lexus can be had with....That is starting to happen as cars like the Corolla can not be bought with push button start and even dual climate control.
Most items on a Lexus do trickle down to Toyotas eventually..for example my parents 2004 4runner has a tailight burnout bulbs malfunction lamp on the guages.Air suspension which likely can from the first Lexus LS and few other things.
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08-31-08, 05:37 AM
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08-31-08, 05:39 AM
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and didnt LS460 have the first hard drive on the market in the USA? I am sure when new GS comes out, it will have hard drive as well...
08-31-08, 06:42 AM
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08-31-08, 06:47 AM
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But I think the point of this thread is that Toyota really needs to start making all Toyota with all the features that a Lexus can be had with....That is starting to happen as cars like the Corolla can not be bought with push button start and even dual climate control.
my point is that there is not enough new stuff in lexus interior, and some of the stuff it lacks is already found in cheaper cars from other brands
I bet it isn't hard for lexus to add an actual "MP3" button to the center stack and have a real mp3 player software built in