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Old 09-05-08 | 10:07 AM
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There's more expense to a car than the purchase price...

Anyone in the market for a new car this year should factor in a number of other costs, such as the interest rate on the loan, depreciation, reliability, fuel economy and -- not to be overlooked -- maintenance and repair.

Consumer Reports Magazine says maintenance and repair costs combine to equal about 4 percent of the total cost of owning a car over the course of five years.

Maintenance includes scheduled work -- like oil changes, tuneups, filter replacements and tire rotation -- and unscheduled replacements such as batteries, brakes, tires and exhaust systems. Many repairs are covered by a new car's warranty, especially in the first few years, but can mount up after the warranty expires.

Here's a look at what are expected to be the 10 most expensive and the 10 least expensive 2008 model cars for maintenance and repairs over a five-year time frame.

10 Most Expensive

1 Dodge Viper
2 Jaguar XK-Series
3 Jaguar XJ-Series
4 Land Rover Range Rover Sport
5 Land Rover Range Rover
6 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
7 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class
8 Land Rover LR3
9 Audi RS4
10 BMW Alpina B7


10 Least Expensive

1 (tie) Suzuki SX4
1 (tie) Honda Element
3 Nissan Versa
4 Hyundai Accent
5 Kia Sedona
6 Honda Pilot
7 Hyundai Veracruz
8 Suzuki XL7
9 Honda CR-V
10 Mazda Tribute
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great find, interesting!
Old 09-05-08 | 10:59 AM
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I second the!
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Go Land Rover!!!

People always talk about the horrific repairs with these vehicles and they are right. One guy on my other forum needs an engine with only 75,000 miles (for roughly $15,000). This is the second engine replacement that I have heard of in the past six months. They are expensive but fun
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No Porsches on the list? They are notoriously expensive for parts and service, especially for high-line and Turbo models.
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No Porsches on the list? They are notoriously expensive for parts and service, especially for high-line and Turbo models.
But I think they are generally reliable (with the exception of the Cayenne).

Better reliability = less maintenance and out-of-pocket costs.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
But I think they are generally reliable (with the exception of the Cayenne).

Better reliability = less maintenance and out-of-pocket costs.
OK, fine, if you look at it that way. I thought the thread dealt with actual parts/repair costs, not the number of repairs needed. For instance, Porsche parts cost an arm and a leg, whether you replace them once a week or once every ten years.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK, fine, if you look at it that way. I thought the thread dealt with actual parts/repair costs, not the number of repairs needed. For instance, Porsche parts cost an arm and a leg, whether you replace them once a week or once every ten years.
True.

I was eyeing a Cayman earlier this year, but the Voice of Reason (and the reason being high maintenance costs) told me to stay away...
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK, fine, if you look at it that way. I thought the thread dealt with actual parts/repair costs, not the number of repairs needed. For instance, Porsche parts cost an arm and a leg, whether you replace them once a week or once every ten years.
Still not true, cost of parts have come way down since the advent of the new water-cooled Porsche's. Sales volume is way up & complexity of design/number of parts is much less.
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Originally Posted by Byprodrive
Still not true, cost of parts have come way down since the advent of the new water-cooled Porsche's. Sales volume is way up & complexity of design/number of parts is much less.

Perhaps true to an extent, but still, more often than not, this is the result of non-warranty-covered Porsche parts/service, especially on top-line and Turbo models.

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It is so funny that the related Land Rover and Jaguar make up half of this list! They share some parts so it makes sense though...
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Porsche parts cost an arm and a leg
True. But the models listed cost more than just 1 arm and 1 leg, they also need your first born child. IOW, it's all relative.
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Yea at $5000.00 a ROTOR x 4 = $20K
without pads?

that will last for 2mm from starting thikness I think Porche owners are very rich indeed.

PCCB
http://www.caymanclub.net/faq.php?do...ll&q=rotors&s=
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One principle seems to be illustrated here, the simpler the car, the fewer features, the less to go wrong. My step mother and I were driving Fords, mine a '74 Ranch Wagon that was about as cheap a vehicle as the company would produce, hers a full-boat '78 with every conceivable option. I put 140K on mine, hers was consumed with problems, most related to the ignition box. It lasted about 60K before it fell apart. Although basically the same car, her LTD Brougham self-destructed at an amazing rate. Mine was a pretty sorry excuse for an automoble, but it never failed me.
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Originally Posted by alexulan
Yea at $5000.00 a ROTOR x 4 = $20K
without pads?

that will last for 2mm from starting thikness I think Porche owners are very rich indeed.

PCCB
http://www.caymanclub.net/faq.php?do...ll&q=rotors&s=
2mm applies toe standard iron I believe, no mention of the PCCB brakes though I understand that their life expectancy is much longer vs standard steel.

Another key benefit of PCCB is its exceptional durability. While the actual rate of wear on all brake components--particularly pads and discs--is entirely dependent on individual driving style and vehicle usage, comparison testing reveals a much longer life expectancy with PCCB than with conventional braking systems, as long as 160,000 miles or more under normal driving conditions. It is important to note that racing and other extreme driving can significantly reduce the life expectancy of any vehicle component. After any driving event, have the vehicle, including all PCCB components, thoroughly checked and replaced as necessary.


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