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Old 09-25-08 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Coco-bun
you are the exact reason why I only take my car to the dealership if and only I have to.

I don't care if it's "fair game", that's just not morally right. The owner works his/her *** off, and you just take their pride possession to prove a point to your manager?
When I first started in the car business I was showed and told it was "ok" to drive cars like that. Then I moved up to shop foreman and one of my techs ran a new cellica all-track (turbo) down a guard rail. I had to inform the customer.
After that I took the stand that I would NEVER drive a customers car in any way other then I how I would like my car driven. I have wrote up several employees of mine for abusing customers and sold units. I have even fired a couple of them.
That among other reasons is why I quit the car business (besides, playing with 6000+ hp everyday is more fun)
Old 09-25-08 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 2JZ_SC
When I first started in the car business I was showed and told it was "ok" to drive cars like that. Then I moved up to shop foreman and one of my techs ran a new cellica all-track (turbo) down a guard rail. I had to inform the customer.
After that I took the stand that I would NEVER drive a customers car in any way other then I how I would like my car driven. I have wrote up several employees of mine for abusing customers and sold units. I have even fired a couple of them.
That among other reasons is why I quit the car business (besides, playing with 6000+ hp everyday is more fun)
well i retract my previous statement, good for you

and 6000hp? a boat?
Old 09-25-08 | 12:19 PM
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yeah. the factory drives the cars hard around their test tracks too
Old 09-25-08 | 02:54 PM
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When I worked at a car dealership, I know the service, sales, and even the GM of the company would sometimes take the new cars out for a "Spirited" spin. Granted these are not customer cars yet, but I know they took them over 100 MPH. What are you going to do when they are the bosses of the dealership. Personally, I think these sorts of things are very common.
Old 09-25-08 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Coco-bun
i thought they test drive and benchmark them before shipping like the NSX?
If you noticed new NSX's, they always have around 100+ miles or so on the odometer because they are broken in and tested at the Suzuka track.
Old 09-25-08 | 03:14 PM
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While I don't support a "Black Box" in cars, in this case, it easily incriminates anyone since the cars are so new.

Read the data, see what it says, bingo.
Old 09-25-08 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
I wonder if some of the employees at the factory in Japan had already done the same to these cars BEFORE they reached the dealers here . . .
Very unlikely for two reasons. Lexus for Japan are built to a different standard than the rest of the world and they only see the cars destined for sale in Japan. And number two, if they got caught doing something like that it would mean their job and that would mean very serious consiquences for that persons future job oportunities. You can't just jop hop over here, most people will stay with a company their wholes lives(after the bubble broke things changed that a bit, but it is returning back to the way it was before slowly)
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
While I don't support a "Black Box" in cars, in this case, it easily incriminates anyone since the cars are so new.

Read the data, see what it says, bingo.
Umm.... wrong thread their SICKLEX...
Old 09-25-08 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
Umm.... wrong thread their SICKLEX...
Actually what he's referring to is that the cars have black boxes so you can find out what they did to the car before it was delivered.
Old 09-25-08 | 09:34 PM
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Actually what he's referring to is that the cars have black boxes so you can find out what they did to the car before it was delivered.
yup.............
Old 09-25-08 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Koma
Actually what he's referring to is that the cars have black boxes so you can find out what they did to the car before it was delivered.
The dealership is the one with the scan tool that can clear the saved data.....
Old 09-25-08 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Koma
Actually what he's referring to is that the cars have black boxes so you can find out what they did to the car before it was delivered.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
yup.............
Oh crap!!!
Old 09-26-08 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 2JZ_SC
The dealership is the one with the scan tool that can clear the saved data.....
Hey I was just explaining for 1Sick. I didn't say that it would work.
Old 09-26-08 | 09:12 AM
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Thanks Koma.....

Its Friday, I smell a Ban!!
Old 09-26-08 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
I know the service, sales, and even the GM of the company would sometimes take the new cars out for a "Spirited" spin. Granted these are not customer cars yet, but I know they took them over 100 MPH. What are you going to do when they are the bosses of the dealership. Personally, I think these sorts of things are very common.
Being a GM won't help you when you roll down your window and see THIS:

Old 09-26-08 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2JZ_SC
The dealership is the one with the scan tool that can clear the saved data.....
Dealerships won't have access to the "black box", only the main ECU. The only way to access the black box is by a court ordered subpoena in a criminal or liability investigation. There's so much confusion over "black boxes" it isn't even funny. Yes, it is a bit of Big Brother, but, rest assured, dealerships WILL NOT be using them to accept or deny warranty claims.
Here is some excellent reading.

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