German carmakers attack U.S. help for rivals
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Its amazing the hate for GM/Ford/Chrysler is so BAD by AMERICANS, they are willing to see these companies go. Yet these same Americans have no problem supporting some pretty CRAPPY vehicles with an import badge.
Hell since the govt is going against my wishes and bailing out the crooks, hell, why not bail out the auto companies as well or at least help them develop serious hybrid or alternative tech.
Send GM etc some NASA scientists, BLAM 200MPG cars
Hell since the govt is going against my wishes and bailing out the crooks, hell, why not bail out the auto companies as well or at least help them develop serious hybrid or alternative tech.
Send GM etc some NASA scientists, BLAM 200MPG cars
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http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...309259920/1193
HANOVER, Germany (Reuters) -- The German auto industry attacked U.S. politicians on Thursday over plans to give $25 billion in low-interest loans to Detroit's crisis-stricken carmakers.
HANOVER, Germany (Reuters) -- The German auto industry attacked U.S. politicians on Thursday over plans to give $25 billion in low-interest loans to Detroit's crisis-stricken carmakers.
If German carmakers spent as much time designing electronics/hardware to match the excellence of their chassis/suspensions as they did whining about how Uncle Sam spends his money, they would be better off.
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So well put!!
I say what goes up, must come down. American car makers depended on Patriotic Loyalty to sell their cars and then relied heavily on manufacturing their cars with cheap material to cut down costs, and then to break down over an almost set amount of time to sell parts or an entirely new car. It was a deal with the devil and they deserve whatever heartache they brought upon themselves.
I say what goes up, must come down. American car makers depended on Patriotic Loyalty to sell their cars and then relied heavily on manufacturing their cars with cheap material to cut down costs, and then to break down over an almost set amount of time to sell parts or an entirely new car. It was a deal with the devil and they deserve whatever heartache they brought upon themselves.
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It was the top US auto brass who decided on that poor method of designing and building really cheap crappy cars and reaping profits, unfortunately the thousands of auto workers had absolutely no say in what they were building and it is not their fault they were given crappy designs with poor materials to build. .
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That is true, look at the current Camry,RAV4, original G35 and 01 or 02 new bigger Altima, which had/have some pretty poor recent quality interior wise on Japanese cars but Detroit automakers were the biggest offenders in the 80's and 90's which is mainly what I was talking about in the decisions to go ahead with lackluster quality and designs and what has completely killed their image with Americans public and people around the world. GM is making big strides in quality with the new Caddy CTS, Malibu, Trailblazer, and some Buick sedans/SUVs but they still have more work to do to catch up to the vast majority of Japanese and European counterparts. Ford and Chrysler continue with lackluster designs and quality though and are not close to up to par even with GM on interior quality and materials aside from maybe the new Lincoln MKS/MKZ.
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Chrysler, yes.....they continue to use a lot of cheap materials in their designs (see my latest review of the Challenger R/T). But Ford is definitely improving. Their Fusion/Milan/MKZ triplets, especially, have excellent reputations. I, personally, also have a very high opinion of the new Taurus/Sable twins (formerly Five Hundered/Montego), not the old Taurus/Sable.
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Chrysler, yes.....they continue to use a lot of cheap materials in their designs (see my latest review of the Challenger R/T). But Ford is definitely improving. Their Fusion/Milan/MKZ triplets, especially, have excellent reputations. I, personally, also have a very high opinion of the new Taurus/Sable twins (formerly Five Hundered/Montego), not the old Taurus/Sable.
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As for the failing of the big three, no one wants to see them fail of course. We're just so frustrated that they have built mostly junk for decades and expect to come away clean. Fortunately, they have made huge strides in the past few years, but so much damage has been done.
It's going to take a product like the Chevy Volt for me to make the switch back to domestics (assuming Toyota doesn't have anything superior at the time). But the Volt has to match Toyota quality, beat Toyota's efficiency, and be affordable. Can they do it? If so, they've won me back.
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