Porsche accuses Nissan of falsifying GT-R Nurburgring lap times (& Nissan responds )
10-09-08, 07:55 AM
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Lol, this is hilarious! What a ******-slap by Nissan to Porsche!
10-09-08, 04:34 PM
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Over 500lbs drop and quite a horsepower gain... I suppose we could expect some 6 min times from the GTR V-spec when they run the car "officially".
10-09-08, 09:17 PM
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Its statements like this that put a smile on my face every time a GTR smokes a 911 turbo. Denial denial denial. Dont be sad. Porsche needs to get its **** together. In the end they will never beat the GTR, because of the price.
10-10-08, 12:00 AM
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So a car that has about a two lbs per horsepower beat the GTR on a short corse ,but yet on a long corse like at the ring it was able to keep up with the Carrea GT and the Enzo?
And the Carrera GT has a power-to-weight ratio of 5.03 pounds per horsepower which is even better than the F430 by a long shot and it was only able to lap 1 second faster than the GTR on the ring. Must be that magic 4wd system it has. Oh and the Enzo with 4.56 pounds per horsepower could only manage a lap at the ring 7:25 only four seconds faster than the GTR, what was that power to weight ratio again on a stock GTR? 8.1157lbs/hp. Yes it must be that magic sophisticated AWD setup...
Not to mention the much lower center of gravity on the Enzo...
And the Carrera GT has a power-to-weight ratio of 5.03 pounds per horsepower which is even better than the F430 by a long shot and it was only able to lap 1 second faster than the GTR on the ring. Must be that magic 4wd system it has. Oh and the Enzo with 4.56 pounds per horsepower could only manage a lap at the ring 7:25 only four seconds faster than the GTR, what was that power to weight ratio again on a stock GTR? 8.1157lbs/hp. Yes it must be that magic sophisticated AWD setup...
Not to mention the much lower center of gravity on the Enzo...Last edited by TwiBlueG35; 10-10-08 at 12:04 AM.
10-10-08, 06:52 AM
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And in the end the GT-R can't beat the 911 in terms of prestige.
People forget that owning a Porsche is quite different than owning a Nissan that can beat a Porsche. I'm not knocking on the GT-R. For what the GT-R is and it's price it's phenomenal but Porsche is not losing too many sales to Nissan.
People forget that owning a Porsche is quite different than owning a Nissan that can beat a Porsche. I'm not knocking on the GT-R. For what the GT-R is and it's price it's phenomenal but Porsche is not losing too many sales to Nissan.
10-10-08, 06:58 AM
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^^^ just like comparing Corvettes to Porsches and higher end supercars.
Yes it's great(er) bang for the buck but you still get what you pay for in lack of quality materials and what not.
Yes it's great(er) bang for the buck but you still get what you pay for in lack of quality materials and what not.
10-10-08, 07:07 AM
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Yes, the numbers you showed above shows that power to weight ratio isn't everything. GT-R is THAT good. And as far as I know, 911 Turbo can't beat F430 Scuderia, can't beat Enzo, can't beat Carrera GT(of course), so if GT-R is so close to these cars, I could directly predict that GT-R is faster than 911 Turbo.
But...But...But... the 911 has a faster time than the Ferrari 430 Scuderia at Nürburgring??? Who are we to believe??? Oh, this is too much.. the GTR must be what everyone is saying it is.
Wiki never lies and so does Nissan... Again , it must be that magic AWD that is doing the trick...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times
10-10-08, 07:12 AM
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I don't think Nissan ever said it wanted to steal sales away from Porsche. They benchmarked the 911 as a performance bogey. The GT-R has a history and following in its own right and those seem to be the people Nissan is concerned with first and foremost.
But I think Porsche has taken notice in any case.
But I think Porsche has taken notice in any case.
10-10-08, 07:31 AM
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Glad to see Nissan stick it to Porsche and not back down here. I don't think they pushed the V-spec back for more sales, me has a feeling it was ready.
Me has a feeling (lol) that Nissan is pissed at Porsche and will invest even more in the V-spec to ensure it destroys a timed lap vs a Porsche.
Oh my!!!
Me has a feeling (lol) that Nissan is pissed at Porsche and will invest even more in the V-spec to ensure it destroys a timed lap vs a Porsche.
Oh my!!!
10-16-08, 09:06 PM
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some info and vid i found if its already posted sorry...
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/13/n...ond-video-and/
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/13/n...ond-video-and/
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