Big Andy

Actually Jaguar does still make the X-Type (it's recently had a mild facelift) - they just don't export it to the US anymore.

Consumer magazine "Which" looked at the last 8 years and rated Jaguar as a brand as average for reliability, alongside Audi and Mercedes. Winner was Honda, with Lexus in 4th place. However, the big Jags, particularly the XJ rate as good for reliability and on initial quality rating match Lexus. With it's aluminium body a 3.0V6 can return decent performance and 26+mpg. I'd definitley consider one.

2002GGPIS3

I can't belive jaguar deprecation, I have seen v6 xjr's for $8,000, V8 xjr's for $12,000 and XK8's for $10-12,000. Great peformence bargains if you can deal with the headaches. Also why is there no active U.S. jaguar forum?

kit cat

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Quality IS NOT reliability.

Byprodrive

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The only problem I ever had with my 99 XJR was the gas mileage bought it with 101,000 miles for $20,000 in 2003 & sold it with 140,000 miles. the years to buy are 2003 for the previous body style or 2006 & newer.

Gas prices made me sell it & buy IS350

FKL

quibble about reliability but I bet you this car won't leave you stranded on the side of a highway with a flashing "D4".

Accord/TL/Pilot/Odyssey/MDX - All garbage transmissions - period.

I8ABMR

Really??? I cant even believe you posted that statement. Quality is directly related to reliability in the automotive world. jaguars are valued the way they are because the quality and reliability is trash.

SoCalSC4

Thank goodness, no more "Jaguar/Contour."

XJ = sedan
XK = coupe/convertible

Either must lease horribly due to the awful resale.

Doggystyle

i have not heard of ANY reliability issues with 04+ xj cars. And i've every review there is. i'm considering upgrading from my LS to a XJR because it might cost too much to make my lex that fast. i've seen a couple 04 xjr's sell for 18000 btw

PhilipMSPT

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Perhaps the definition of quality should be further defragmented.

Build quality = well, Jags are more handmade than other brands, which can be less reliable than computer/machine made brands. But if you think about it, even some of Lexus's leather and wood are all hand-stitched and hand-polished. So, it can go either way.

Material quality = we can't deny the fact that Jaguar's textiles, leathers, and plastics are some of the best in the world. Even Lexus can't compare to handmade British material quality. If Jaguar's material quality is trash, then everyone else's is manure.

Technological quality = no, Jaguar does not reign in this. Japanese cars have far superior technological quality than Jag.

Mechanical quality = Jag's engines are not that advanced when you compare it to Lexus or BMW. However, having a supercharged V8 that pumps out 500+ hp is something truly desirable. Transmission issues may not be the best out there (in fact, I heard Jag's transmissions are outright horrendous), but mechanical quality can still be categorized as good. Trash? No. Best? Absolutely not.

Initial quality = seems that Jags have had good initial quality in the most recent years. But that does not directly correlate to long-term reliability. Both are somewhat independent based on material quality and build quality.

So, the trash talk is a bit inappropriate. Yes, Jags have issues. But the new Jags are far from trash...

IS-SV

Is the depreciation of these Jags really that much worse than high end BMW and Benz models lately, no it's not.

FisforFast

Cars that went for more than $100k new, three years ago, are selling for $20-25k. If that's not horrendous depreciation, then I don't know what is.

IS-SV

Exactly, that's horrible depreciation, just like the cars it competes with have horrible depreciation too.

FisforFast

The high end BMWs and MBs are only going cheap now because of major facelifts and overhauls for the newer model years... not because they depreciate horrendously (not that they don't, just not nearly as much as a Jag).

I'm planning on picking up an XFR for cheap in a few years.

IS-SV

Yes, anybody can guess and speculate as to why they all have very high depreciation rates, but the bottom line is all these high-end Jags, BMWs and MBs have horrible depreciation.

UDel

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...term_road_test

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...ged/index.html

Seems like the XF at least still has the same issues that have plagued Jaguar over the years. I have read many are having issues with this car and it seems Jaguar has not gotten decent reliability down yet. It is a shame because it is such a beautiful car.