OCTOBER 2008 Vehicles Sales
11-03-08, 08:05 PM
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The market is really hurting...amazing to see Porsche down 50%!
The Infiniti EX deal with 0% financing was reported, other nationwide ones expired recently:
http://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/2...ncentives.html
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...nfiniti-e.html
And actually Infiniti dealers in CA, AZ, NJ have been offering 0% financing in 2008:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=375026
The Infiniti EX deal with 0% financing was reported, other nationwide ones expired recently:
Infiniti Rebates and Incentives
Model Year Rebates & Incentives Type Expires
Infiniti FX35, FX45 2008 0% financing. Customer 09/30/08
Infiniti QX56 2008 0% financing. Customer 09/30/08
Infiniti EX35 2008 0% financing. Customer 09/30/08
Model Year Rebates & Incentives Type Expires
Infiniti FX35, FX45 2008 0% financing. Customer 09/30/08
Infiniti QX56 2008 0% financing. Customer 09/30/08
Infiniti EX35 2008 0% financing. Customer 09/30/08
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...nfiniti-e.html
And actually Infiniti dealers in CA, AZ, NJ have been offering 0% financing in 2008:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=375026
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11-03-08, 08:08 PM
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Actually Infiniti dealers in CA, AZ, been offering 0% financing in 2008:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=
11-03-08, 08:13 PM
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11-03-08, 08:21 PM
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Acura is going to compete this with new crossover. They may take 100 per month from BMW.
11-03-08, 09:01 PM
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BMW sales though were quite impressive given the conditions, and of course Audi sales, even though tiny, did increase.
11-03-08, 09:11 PM
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All those things, combined with tightened (more sane) credit rules, are making people reluctant about or unable to do more spending.
11-03-08, 09:12 PM
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Sure, but it goes without saying how bad the market overall is. I suspect though that those 1.2K Genesis sales ate BIG time into the GS sales. If Lexus still can't get rid of the cassette player how 'upscale' does a potential buyer consider it?
BMW sales though were quite impressive given the conditions, and of course Audi sales, even though tiny, did increase.
BMW sales though were quite impressive given the conditions, and of course Audi sales, even though tiny, did increase.
At this rate of 1200 or so a month, they will easily miss this target. I still COMMEND them for a very good effort and vehicle.
Infiniti is not offering, nor ever has offered 0% financing. I don't know where your getting that from.
I enjoyed reading your theory of sales of the manufacturers, but maybe you can provide us with one about why Lexus is down 38% when most of the lineup is only a couple years old or less.
I enjoyed reading your theory of sales of the manufacturers, but maybe you can provide us with one about why Lexus is down 38% when most of the lineup is only a couple years old or less.
1. Clearly everyone is down b/c of the economy.
2.the only new vehicles are the limited production IS-F and LX 570.
3. Lexus numbers look worse b/c they sold 330k cars last year, a record for luxury car brands. They were NOT going to top 330k vehicles sold, even with a better economy. They were going down in sales period in 2008.
4. They do not have anything nearly as aggresive as BMW or Infiniti when it comes to leases and financing and never have.
5. Increased competition, from the Genesis to the G8 to even the Kia Borrego and others. While some are direct competition and others not so much, it muddies some decision making.
6. Change in tastes. Some people will turn away from luxury brands in this slow economy, they do not want to "advertise" they are doing okay (benefits the Genesis for example).
My other theories hold true to LExus as well. People are simply not inclined to make a purchase.
IT is a nationwide deal. Its on the website and they have national advertisements for the 0% deal. The EX has had it for a few months now.
11-03-08, 09:44 PM
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I took this from another forum
Pre-Entry-Level
1. TSX - 1,844
2. 1-Series - 1,173
3. C30/S40/V50 - 972
4. A3 - 255
Entry-Level
1. 3 - 9,059
2. A4/5 - 4,649
3. C - 4,594
4. TL - 4,340
5. ES - 4,141
6. CTS - 3,997
7. G35/37 - 3,637
8. IS - 2,772
9. MKZ - 1,309
10. 9-3 - 1,471
11. S60 - 612
Mid-Level
1. 5 - 3,958
2. E - 2,098
3. MKS - 2,072
4. M - 1,193
5. GS - 819
6. A6/S6 - 758
7. STS - 632
8. S80 - 424
9. RL - 272
10. 9-5 - 188
Flagship-1
1. LS - 1,502
2. S-Class - 1,208
3. 7-Series - 1,096
4. A8/S8 - 415
Genesis - 1,121
RX: 5100
ML: 3150
MDX: 3005
X5: 2358
Q7: 984
FX: 954
Entry CUV
1. X3 - 1,294
2. EX - 898
3. RDX - 647
Pre-Entry-Level
1. TSX - 1,844
2. 1-Series - 1,173
3. C30/S40/V50 - 972
4. A3 - 255
Entry-Level
1. 3 - 9,059
2. A4/5 - 4,649
3. C - 4,594
4. TL - 4,340
5. ES - 4,141
6. CTS - 3,997
7. G35/37 - 3,637
8. IS - 2,772
9. MKZ - 1,309
10. 9-3 - 1,471
11. S60 - 612
Mid-Level
1. 5 - 3,958
2. E - 2,098
3. MKS - 2,072
4. M - 1,193
5. GS - 819
6. A6/S6 - 758
7. STS - 632
8. S80 - 424
9. RL - 272
10. 9-5 - 188
Flagship-1
1. LS - 1,502
2. S-Class - 1,208
3. 7-Series - 1,096
4. A8/S8 - 415
Genesis - 1,121
RX: 5100
ML: 3150
MDX: 3005
X5: 2358
Q7: 984
FX: 954
Entry CUV
1. X3 - 1,294
2. EX - 898
3. RDX - 647
11-03-08, 10:55 PM
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Lexus is down for a few reasons.
1. Clearly everyone is down b/c of the economy.
2.the only new vehicles are the limited production IS-F and LX 570.
3. Lexus numbers look worse b/c they sold 330k cars last year, a record for luxury car brands. They were NOT going to top 330k vehicles sold, even with a better economy. They were going down in sales period in 2008.
1. Clearly everyone is down b/c of the economy.
2.the only new vehicles are the limited production IS-F and LX 570.
3. Lexus numbers look worse b/c they sold 330k cars last year, a record for luxury car brands. They were NOT going to top 330k vehicles sold, even with a better economy. They were going down in sales period in 2008.
1.) This is the main reason for almost all the manufacturers. If the Acura TL, Acura TSX, and BMW X6 do not meet their sales goal, would you be willing to admit that the main reason is the economy?
2.) The IS just went through a MMC. The rest of the line-up excluding the SC and RX are not old enough to have reached a MMC yet so they are all still fairly new.
3.) 330k is not a record for luxury car brands. BMW sells well over a million, as does Audi and MB. As a business, your goal is to grow sales year-over-year. If your saying that Lexus was not going to pass 330k sales even in a good economy, then your just assuming they were content with 330k and didn't care to do even better. I think not.
It is not a nationwide deal. It is not anywhere on their website nor have I even seen any ads from Infiniti on tv for it. Please give me the link to the part of the Infiniti website that shows the 0%.
11-04-08, 06:46 AM
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1.) This is the main reason for almost all the manufacturers. If the Acura TL, Acura TSX, and BMW X6 do not meet their sales goal, would you be willing to admit that the main reason is the economy?
2.) The IS just went through a MMC. The rest of the line-up excluding the SC and RX are not old enough to have reached a MMC yet so they are all still fairly new.
3.) 330k is not a record for luxury car brands. BMW sells well over a million, as does Audi and MB. As a business, your goal is to grow sales year-over-year. If your saying that Lexus was not going to pass 330k sales even in a good economy, then your just assuming they were content with 330k and didn't care to do even better. I think not.
It is not a nationwide deal. It is not anywhere on their website nor have I even seen any ads from Infiniti on tv for it. Please give me the link to the part of the Infiniti website that shows the 0%.
2.) The IS just went through a MMC. The rest of the line-up excluding the SC and RX are not old enough to have reached a MMC yet so they are all still fairly new.
3.) 330k is not a record for luxury car brands. BMW sells well over a million, as does Audi and MB. As a business, your goal is to grow sales year-over-year. If your saying that Lexus was not going to pass 330k sales even in a good economy, then your just assuming they were content with 330k and didn't care to do even better. I think not.
It is not a nationwide deal. It is not anywhere on their website nor have I even seen any ads from Infiniti on tv for it. Please give me the link to the part of the Infiniti website that shows the 0%.
2. Hey I said Lexus got hit in the head, what more shall I say? It still nearly sold as much as Acura+Infiniti combined last month.
3. 330k in AMERICA, sorry I assumed we were posting sales goals here in this country. Not sure why we are bringing up sales worldwide. Lexus was not going to sell more than 330k cars this year in a good economy. As you stated, some of the models are older, they would not have sold as well as last year. A business that wants to just grow sales year after year is a lost business. Its about profitability and lowering costs. The Germans have chased the sales goal in America, particularly BMW with these bargain basement lease deals and class leading incentives that destroyed their profit. It was such a bad move to chase sales, BMW posted they will have a 20% reduction in volume here to become more profitable.
I am sorry YOU have not seen any ads for Infiniti but I have and have posted it in threads here. If you don't believe me, fine, but its there. I think members here know me to well to lie
Thread back in AUGUST here.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...light=infiniti
Infiniti EX fail here
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...light=infiniti
Its on the homepage for goodness sakes.
http://www.infiniti.com/
11-04-08, 07:19 AM
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2008 Top-20 Selling Vehicles in U.S. Through October
Detroit November 3, 2008;
Reuters reported the 20 top-selling vehicles in the U.S. through October of 2008 as reported by the automakers. Total sales of the top 20 vehicles fell 9 percent or -437,401 units to 4,443,849.
Following is a list of the top-20 selling vehicles, ranked by total units.
source : theautochannel
Reuters reported the 20 top-selling vehicles in the U.S. through October of 2008 as reported by the automakers. Total sales of the top 20 vehicles fell 9 percent or -437,401 units to 4,443,849.
Following is a list of the top-20 selling vehicles, ranked by total units.
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RANK VEHICLE 2008 2007 '07 RANK % Chng 1 Ford F-Series P/U 436,022 588,952 1 -26.0 2 Chevy Silverado-C/K P/U 402,191 526,575 2 -23.6 3 Toyota Camry 386,118 398,868 3 -3.2 4 Honda Accord 333,011 332,815 6 +0.1 5 Toyota Corolla 307,071 317,796 4 -3.4 6 Honda Civic 304,297 278,764 8 +9.2 7 Nissan Altima 241,529 239,800 9 +0.7 8 Chevrolet Impala 231,841 270,504 7 -14.3 9 Dodge Ram P/U 213,684 301,689 5 -29.2 10 Ford Focus 175,958 145,977 15 +20.5 11 Honda CR-V 171,193 184,003 11 -7.0 12 Chevrolet Cobalt 168,940 169,400 14 -0.3 13 Chevrolet Malibu 151,429 108,930 26 +39.0 14 GMC Sierra P/U 145,067 174,621 12 -16.9 15 Toyota Prius 142,365 150,572 16 -5.5 16 Ford Escape 135,558 139,911 17 -3.1 17 Ford Fusion 128,381 123,729 20 +3.8 18 GM Pontiac G6 126,494 121,278 28 +4.3 19 Toyota Tundra 121,451 162,348 23 -25.2 20 Honda Odyssey 121,249 144,718 21 -16.2
11-04-08, 07:34 AM
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It's true that Acura and Infiniti are in the tank. But so is Lexus so I doubt that them selling more numbers is any consolation to them in view of the 38% plunge they have experienced as well as the month-over-month declines they've had for the last 2-3 months. Only a precious few makers are seeing any increase at all right now and even those increases are marginal.
And how can the G37 sedan even be a factor yet since it only just went on sale?
The ugly truth is that these are dire times for the entire economy. Similar to the airline industry in the wake of 9/11 the auto industry is struggling to survive through this. And I'm afraid that, just like the airline industry, there will be some casualties (either in terms of individuals models or entire companies) before it's improves.
ALL of them are trying to get people into the showrooms and deals are the way to do it.
And how can the G37 sedan even be a factor yet since it only just went on sale?
The ugly truth is that these are dire times for the entire economy. Similar to the airline industry in the wake of 9/11 the auto industry is struggling to survive through this. And I'm afraid that, just like the airline industry, there will be some casualties (either in terms of individuals models or entire companies) before it's improves.
ALL of them are trying to get people into the showrooms and deals are the way to do it.