2010 Nissan GT-R Loses Launch Control
11-20-08, 07:46 AM
#17
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Abuse? Its a feature they put on the car. Nissan is known for glass trannies and glass rear-ends (post R200 and R230 anyway). The 350z 6-speed can hardly handle as much peak torque as the W58 in the SC3 or NA Supra. Nissan == cost-cutting. I don't know who is more at fault; the idiots who thought Nissan wouldnt do this to them or Nissan themselves.
Godzilla+weak a$$ parts+cookie cutter tranny=big fat purple Barney "I love you, you love me, give me a new extended warr-an-ty"
11-20-08, 08:14 AM
#18
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All give me a break. I do not own a GT-R but it is obvious you cannot continue to abuse a car and expect it to be cover by warranty. The car computer probably tracks how many times a person uses launch control. Honestly after seen the car on Top Gear most people probably do not even know how to drive the car. I doubt they cut cost on the car transmission especially since the entire purpose of the car is to kick ***.
11-20-08, 08:33 AM
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Well, the car only needs to kick *** so many times so let's just make the tranny strong (or rather, weak) enough to take that many times of abuse. After that then it's the owners' fault because the car can only kick *** that many times.
What Nissan has forgotten is that they offered the launch control as a FEATURE, like the darn A/C and the power ECT button in my IS. I wonder what kind a hell would people raise if Lexus announces like the power ECT button can only be turn on so many times. I can see angry mobs burning down Lexus dealerships...
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11-20-08, 09:29 AM
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^^^^ ECT power vs LC is not an apples to apples comparison IMO. Aren't most of the faster 1/4 mile ISs leaving he ECT power off anyway to achieve their times? Even if, or when, their times were better with ECT is was minimal at best. Honestly, I really doubt most Lexus buyers would care if they took away ECT and I am willing to bet most dont even know what it is, where the button is, or what it does.
LC is much more dramatic than ECT power and while I don't condone that fact that it might be causing all of these transmissions to blow you can't continually beat on a car and expect it to last as long as someone who doesnt. I think we're also forgetting that 0-60 is not what makes the GT-R special; it was never claimed to the the king of 1/4 mile or anything like that. The car is made to be a real race track, you know, with a turn here and there.
Perhaps Nissan's biggest mistake in offering the switch was that they put too much faith in people having any sort of good judgment and to use the LC perhaps more responsibly. LC or not, the GT-R is still fast as hell with very very few cars that can touch it for it's price, sans dealer mark-up.
LC is much more dramatic than ECT power and while I don't condone that fact that it might be causing all of these transmissions to blow you can't continually beat on a car and expect it to last as long as someone who doesnt. I think we're also forgetting that 0-60 is not what makes the GT-R special; it was never claimed to the the king of 1/4 mile or anything like that. The car is made to be a real race track, you know, with a turn here and there.
Perhaps Nissan's biggest mistake in offering the switch was that they put too much faith in people having any sort of good judgment and to use the LC perhaps more responsibly. LC or not, the GT-R is still fast as hell with very very few cars that can touch it for it's price, sans dealer mark-up.
11-20-08, 09:40 AM
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^^^^ ECT power vs LC is not an apples to apples comparison IMO. Aren't most of the faster 1/4 mile ISs leaving he ECT power off anyway to achieve their times? Even if, or when, their times were better with ECT is was minimal at best. Honestly, I really doubt most Lexus buyers would care if they took away ECT and I am willing to bet most dont even know what it is, where the button is, or what it does.
LC is much more dramatic than ECT power and while I don't condone that fact that it might be causing all of these transmissions to blow you can't continually beat on a car and expect it to last as long as someone who doesnt. I think we're also forgetting that 0-60 is not what makes the GT-R special; it was never claimed to the the king of 1/4 mile or anything like that. The car is made to be a real race track, you know, with a turn here and there.
Perhaps Nissan's biggest mistake in offering the switch was that they put too much faith in people having any sort of good judgment and to use the LC perhaps more responsibly. LC or not, the GT-R is still fast as hell with very very few cars that can touch it for it's price, sans dealer mark-up.
LC is much more dramatic than ECT power and while I don't condone that fact that it might be causing all of these transmissions to blow you can't continually beat on a car and expect it to last as long as someone who doesnt. I think we're also forgetting that 0-60 is not what makes the GT-R special; it was never claimed to the the king of 1/4 mile or anything like that. The car is made to be a real race track, you know, with a turn here and there.
Perhaps Nissan's biggest mistake in offering the switch was that they put too much faith in people having any sort of good judgment and to use the LC perhaps more responsibly. LC or not, the GT-R is still fast as hell with very very few cars that can touch it for it's price, sans dealer mark-up.
Sure, the GT-R is still really fast and great value, assuming you don't use LC and break your tranny, AND assuming you didn't pay a huge dealer mark-up for it.
Nissan's biggest mistake was OFFERING the switch in the first place! The simple fact that the GT-R HAS the switch means LC is a FEATURE, regardless of how useful it is, or how often owners use it.
Nissan realized they screwed up and are now getting rid of the switch. The switch should have never been offered in the first place.
I bet the only reason Nissan offered it was to brag about 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Having an unsupported feature available on the car that also voids the warranty, JUST so Nissan could say "the GT-R hits 0-60 and the 1/4 mile in X and X times".
11-20-08, 11:02 AM
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Very true. That's why getting rid of it should be the correct move in the long run, unless Nissan can solve the reliability issue.
11-20-08, 02:26 PM
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putting feature on a car and telling customers they can't use it? PLEASE give me a break. They made a mistake for putting that switch in the car in the first place! They had to do it to say "oh we can go 0-60 in so many seconds and blah blah.." Its a nice car and all but don't try to sell customers a feature and telling them not to touch it.. WTH??
It's like saying lexus put LC in our cars and claim that 0-60 in 3ish seconds.. most of us buy it and lexus goes BUT IT WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY...whats the point of buying the car that can do 0-60 in 3plus second if YOU CANT USE THE DAMN THING TO ITS POTENTIAL...
just a thought
It's like saying lexus put LC in our cars and claim that 0-60 in 3ish seconds.. most of us buy it and lexus goes BUT IT WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY...whats the point of buying the car that can do 0-60 in 3plus second if YOU CANT USE THE DAMN THING TO ITS POTENTIAL...
just a thought
11-20-08, 02:34 PM
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putting feature on a car and telling customers they can't use it? PLEASE give me a break. They made a mistake for putting that switch in the car in the first place! They had to do it to say "oh we can go 0-60 in so many seconds and blah blah.." Its a nice car and all but don't try to sell customers a feature and telling them not to touch it.. WTH??
It's like saying lexus put LC in our cars and claim that 0-60 in 3ish seconds.. most of us buy it and lexus goes BUT IT WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY...whats the point of buying the car that can do 0-60 in 3plus second if YOU CANT USE THE DAMN THING TO ITS POTENTIAL...
just a thought
It's like saying lexus put LC in our cars and claim that 0-60 in 3ish seconds.. most of us buy it and lexus goes BUT IT WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY...whats the point of buying the car that can do 0-60 in 3plus second if YOU CANT USE THE DAMN THING TO ITS POTENTIAL...
just a thought
Snap!And where are all the GT-R strokers in here......your beloved Godzilla is getting killed and you are nowhere to be seen
Where is this guy now?
"UGH you are so thick man.
How do you know GTR transmissions have issues? Do you know anyone personally? Or do you just read junk online and feed yourself on it?
I have about 1000 Track miles on my GTR. Car only gets better by each session as it breaks in. How I can down shift the Borgwarner gears while at the apex is sublime, unmatched by anything I have driven before. have a dragged it? no. such car are not built for it. There is a lot more to this car then 0- 60 times.
anyway talking about if the car can handle the stress from the LC?
well here is a proof that you my friend have jumped on some retarded bandwagon "
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11-20-08, 02:54 PM
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should have offered a manual transmission option for purists like me that won't drive anything else in their sports cars.
11-20-08, 03:18 PM
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I think its more of a glass tranny 
The manual would have broken too.
I agree with 97-SC300; they should have bolstered the transmission or ensured through some electronic trickery that the full load didn't get put down during launch. Sure it would have been a bit slower, but it also would have saved some transmissions. Good ol' French.. ahem I mean Nissan engineering.
The GTR release and these problems make it so shady to me; the trap speed and horsepower numbers that didn't add up, etc. And yeah, if you bring up problems with the GTR or something you don't like, you get flamed for it by all the fanboys.
Luckily, I don't care much about getting flamed and don't mind handing out my fair share; as many of you know
The manual would have broken too.I agree with 97-SC300; they should have bolstered the transmission or ensured through some electronic trickery that the full load didn't get put down during launch. Sure it would have been a bit slower, but it also would have saved some transmissions. Good ol' French.. ahem I mean Nissan engineering.
The GTR release and these problems make it so shady to me; the trap speed and horsepower numbers that didn't add up, etc. And yeah, if you bring up problems with the GTR or something you don't like, you get flamed for it by all the fanboys.
Luckily, I don't care much about getting flamed and don't mind handing out my fair share; as many of you know
11-20-08, 03:30 PM
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I think its more of a glass tranny The manual would have broken too.
I agree with 97-SC300; they should have bolstered the transmission or ensured through some electronic trickery that the full load didn't get put down during launch. Sure it would have been a bit slower, but it also would have saved some transmissions. Good ol' French.. ahem I mean Nissan engineering.
The GTR release and these problems make it so shady to me; the trap speed and horsepower numbers that didn't add up, etc. And yeah, if you bring up problems with the GTR or something you don't like, you get flamed for it by all the fanboys.
Luckily, I don't care much about getting flamed and don't mind handing out my fair share; as many of you know
The manual would have broken too.I agree with 97-SC300; they should have bolstered the transmission or ensured through some electronic trickery that the full load didn't get put down during launch. Sure it would have been a bit slower, but it also would have saved some transmissions. Good ol' French.. ahem I mean Nissan engineering.
The GTR release and these problems make it so shady to me; the trap speed and horsepower numbers that didn't add up, etc. And yeah, if you bring up problems with the GTR or something you don't like, you get flamed for it by all the fanboys.
Luckily, I don't care much about getting flamed and don't mind handing out my fair share; as many of you know
