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Old 11-20-08, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MSMLexIS
Maybe the 4th model is the new GS.
Not a chance.

Period.
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Old 11-20-08, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MSMLexIS
Maybe the 4th model is the new GS.

Or maybe it's the new GX.
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Originally Posted by rominl
with all due respect though as a car overall i don't see the ls600hl competing with the s600. with the 760il i think the 600hl is comparable overall, and probably on the interiors and gadgets the 600hl goes well with the s600. but the s600 performance just simply blows away the 600hl. it's not just v12, it's twin turbo
Agree with regard to performance, even though the S600 cost quite a bit more at $140K+ .
The new redesigned 750Li will perform better than the LS600hL even in straight line performnce though, with 400hp and 450 lb.ft torque, & probably a little lighter too ...
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Old 11-20-08, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kalvano
As for the LF-A, my understanding is that it will be around a 2011 model. They simply aren't in a big hurry to rush it to market. The other vehicles are far more profitable.
If it's true that they are going to produce the LF-A, I hope they keep in mind that the longer they wait, the more they have to up it's performance/driving dynamics even more so that it won't look obsolete as soon as it is launched, if they are to stick with the $200K+ price range.
What's consider respectable performance for that class of supercar for 2009 may not be the case a couple years later ...
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Old 11-20-08, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
If it's true that they are going to produce the LF-A, I hope they keep in mind that the longer they wait, the more they have to up it's performance/driving dynamics even more so that it won't look obsolete as soon as it is launched, if they are to stick with the $200K+ price range.
What's consider respectable performance for that class of supercar for 2009 may not be the case a couple years later ...
Given what the LF-A has displayed so far at the 'Ring while testing, and also during the 24 Hr race at the 'Ring I would hardly call it obsolete, even if it comes to market in 2 years. It finished first in it's class running a mostly stock car configuration, and despite the fact it was out of the race for a few hours due to mechanical problems.
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Old 11-20-08, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Maybe the LS 460 F-sport.....
or LS 600hL-F


ah it was just too fun to say out loud, i had to throw it in
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Old 11-20-08, 10:31 PM
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It can't be the LS460(L) AWD, right?
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Old 11-20-08, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
It can't be the LS460(L) AWD, right?
that's already out, right? templin is talking about 4 new models in 2009, not 2009 MY (at least the way i read it)
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Old 11-20-08, 11:24 PM
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I have a feeling it's either a new GX or a new SC, more likely a new GX, I don't hear no stories about a next gen SC unfortunately.
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Old 11-20-08, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
No LF-A , no interest ...
I would sell the celsior if they bought it out next year.
Originally Posted by kalvano
They are still building the LF-A.

It will be a couple years, since they have showroom models to introduce.

It will be an order-only car, and probably about $225K - $300K.
The will be from $150K to $200K, I have a pretty reliable source that I have spoken to.
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Old 11-21-08, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
It can't be the LS460(L) AWD, right?
Some member here has already taken delivery of the 460L AWD I think, and it's available for the SWB as well.
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Old 11-21-08, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
The will be from $150K to $200K, I have a pretty reliable source that I have spoken to.
Really? That's interesting. Last we were told, it might push $300K.

But they've bounced back and forth on pricing since it's announcement.
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Old 11-21-08, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
If it's true that they are going to produce the LF-A, I hope they keep in mind that the longer they wait, the more they have to up it's performance/driving dynamics even more so that it won't look obsolete as soon as it is launched, if they are to stick with the $200K+ price range.
What's consider respectable performance for that class of supercar for 2009 may not be the case a couple years later ...
I agree 100%. In 2 years time, the new McLaren super car will be out, the GT-R v-spec, A Mercedes super car, The BMW super car, the "NSX", and others. I'm not saying that it won't be able to compete, because if rumors from the ring are true it certainly can. However, it certainly would not look as impressive, nor seem worth its supposedly exorbitant price tag.

Late 2009 as a 2010 model at the latest, if not, save the embarrassment and don't bother. That, or try to pawn it of at higher volume at an $80k price tag when the price of CF and gas go down.
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Maybe 4th model is GS-F.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Maybe 4th model is GS-F.
hehe i didn't say but i hope that's the case. i'd seriously consider it
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