2007 Mecedes S550
01-04-09, 11:11 PM
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Wow some of you here are pathetic! His S class has a leak so that means every MB is a pos. But if he had a LS460/600 and had a leak it would be a isolated incident. I am on my 4th ml. My w163 1998 straight from the factory had no problems crashed it with 60k on the clock. My face lifted w163 2002 had issues with coolant leaking and a bad rain sensor. My w164 ML350(30k) no problems but got in a fender bender fixed it sent it to Poland. My w164 2006 ML500 trouble free is still roling with 50k miles only in the dealership for service. My 300e 1989 had no problems my 1994 c280 had no problems as well. With that history under my skin does that make MB 100% full proof, NO!! Sure theyre are issues but they are blown out of proportion by car magazine's and people like you.
01-04-09, 11:45 PM
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heh, to be honest, there are plenty on both sides of this issue. There are die hard lexus fanatics as well as die hard german fans in this forum. You'll get both biased and neutral posts and you won't know which is which for 50% of the time.
Sometimes bad luck happens. Possibly good luck is around until only next week. Nobody ever knows.
He had an oil leak. It sucks. He's not asking for a "waaaaahbulance". He's just stating what happened and compared it to his LS. Hell, i defend the **** outta my CLS and previous MB's i've owned because i've never really had any problems. Maybe i'm just lucky until my next benz, maybe that's how they really are. Nobody knows.
Sometimes bad luck happens. Possibly good luck is around until only next week. Nobody ever knows.
He had an oil leak. It sucks. He's not asking for a "waaaaahbulance". He's just stating what happened and compared it to his LS. Hell, i defend the **** outta my CLS and previous MB's i've owned because i've never really had any problems. Maybe i'm just lucky until my next benz, maybe that's how they really are. Nobody knows.
01-05-09, 12:23 AM
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Wow some of you here are pathetic! His S class has a leak so that means every MB is a pos. But if he had a LS460/600 and had a leak it would be a isolated incident. I am on my 4th ml. My w163 1998 straight from the factory had no problems crashed it with 60k on the clock. My face lifted w163 2002 had issues with coolant leaking and a bad rain sensor. My w164 ML350(30k) no problems but got in a fender bender fixed it sent it to Poland. My w164 2006 ML500 trouble free is still roling with 50k miles only in the dealership for service. My 300e 1989 had no problems my 1994 c280 had no problems as well. With that history under my skin does that make MB 100% full proof, NO!! Sure theyre are issues but they are blown out of proportion by car magazine's and people like you.
Unfortunately, that of many other people hasn't.....and it is not "blowing it out of proportion" for Consumer Reports or J.D. Power to come up with sub-standard reliability ratings based on hundereds of thousands of questionnaires.Now, as far as the leak is concerned (the thread subject), that is not necessarily a major repair. It may or may not be. Depending on the design of the engine block and how the block is installed, sometimes even a main engine seal can be replaced without pulling the engine itself......and adding to labor costs.
01-05-09, 01:01 AM
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even if that was the case , he still speaks the truth about mercedes and their amazingly bad reliablity ratings. Mind blowing considering the price
01-05-09, 02:02 AM
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You totally miss the fact that with higher price inherently comes more advanced and sophisticated design/engineering/technology. I didn't realize there was some sort of correlation between rising pricetags and rising reliability ratings. If anything, it seems to be the direct oposite.
Mercedes-Benz, along with their German peers, are constatly at the razors edge of cutting edge design elements, powertrain technologies, convenience and saftey features - And you expect all of this advancing innovation to come with reliability that is akin to a family sedan from Japan? What groundbreaking ideals does that class of cars reguarly offer?
Mercedes-Benz, along with their German peers, are constatly at the razors edge of cutting edge design elements, powertrain technologies, convenience and saftey features - And you expect all of this advancing innovation to come with reliability that is akin to a family sedan from Japan? What groundbreaking ideals does that class of cars reguarly offer?
01-05-09, 06:17 AM
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Most people know Japanese car companies rarely offer anything new. Copycats
Back on topic. I understand your frustrated but being that your car was just service. It definitely sound like the technician didn't do a good job on your vehicle. I have own a Mercedes for the past six years and I must say there reliability has improve.
Yes, my Acura and Lexus crank up every morning with no problem. However, they just don't bring a smile to my face like my Benz.
Back on topic. I understand your frustrated but being that your car was just service. It definitely sound like the technician didn't do a good job on your vehicle. I have own a Mercedes for the past six years and I must say there reliability has improve.
Yes, my Acura and Lexus crank up every morning with no problem. However, they just don't bring a smile to my face like my Benz.
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01-05-09, 06:21 AM
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Wow some of you here are pathetic! His S class has a leak so that means every MB is a pos. But if he had a LS460/600 and had a leak it would be a isolated incident. I am on my 4th ml. My w163 1998 straight from the factory had no problems crashed it with 60k on the clock. My face lifted w163 2002 had issues with coolant leaking and a bad rain sensor. My w164 ML350(30k) no problems but got in a fender bender fixed it sent it to Poland. My w164 2006 ML500 trouble free is still roling with 50k miles only in the dealership for service. My 300e 1989 had no problems my 1994 c280 had no problems as well. With that history under my skin does that make MB 100% full proof, NO!! Sure theyre are issues but they are blown out of proportion by car magazine's and people like you.
01-05-09, 08:41 AM
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Your opinions noted, and I'm glad that your experience with M-B products has been relatively good. Unfortunately, that of many other people hasn't.....and it is not "blowing it out of proportion" for Consumer Reports or J.D. Power to come up with sub-standard reliability ratings based on hundereds of thousands of questionnaires.
Now, as far as the leak is concerned (the thread subject), that is not necessarily a major repair. It may or may not be. Depending on the design of the engine block and how the block is installed, sometimes even a main engine seal can be replaced without pulling the engine itself......and adding to labor costs.
Unfortunately, that of many other people hasn't.....and it is not "blowing it out of proportion" for Consumer Reports or J.D. Power to come up with sub-standard reliability ratings based on hundereds of thousands of questionnaires.Now, as far as the leak is concerned (the thread subject), that is not necessarily a major repair. It may or may not be. Depending on the design of the engine block and how the block is installed, sometimes even a main engine seal can be replaced without pulling the engine itself......and adding to labor costs.
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01-05-09, 10:28 AM
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Well I owned a MB CL & now a CLS so I guess you can see how I have a smile on my face. The only car I have literally stared at in my garage was my NSX.
A IS F is nice but in the DC Metro area people really don't pay much attention to a IS seriously. Maybe because people here are so in love with the BMW 3 series. However, I can see how the car can bring a smile to your face. Just not my M.O.
I really don't know the author situation but it simply seem like the technician didn't service his car correctly. He should make MB pick up his car and leave him a loaner. However, for people to say Mercedes reliability hasn't improved is simply untrue.
A IS F is nice but in the DC Metro area people really don't pay much attention to a IS seriously. Maybe because people here are so in love with the BMW 3 series. However, I can see how the car can bring a smile to your face. Just not my M.O.
I really don't know the author situation but it simply seem like the technician didn't service his car correctly. He should make MB pick up his car and leave him a loaner. However, for people to say Mercedes reliability hasn't improved is simply untrue.
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01-05-09, 12:01 PM
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Please let us all watch our tone. This thread is going its usual way
1. Someone says their Benz (German) car has issues
2. People post their thoughts, then the bad posts come in
-"my German car has never had any issues (only on the internet) and my Lexus was the worst car I owned
-"my Lexus never had an issue and my German car was a total POS (more likely but still exagerrated many times)
3. Personal bickering
4. Lexus is an appliance b/c it works and Germans have soul (b/c breaking down= soul I guess)
Again, I didn't raise an eyebrow at the OP's post and nor should anyone else. It should be expected. One year of FINALLY having above average cars (very commendable I will add) does not erase a decade and more of bad ones. We need to see long term reports on the new batch of cars. The S550 is STILL a superb vehicle.
Both brands are stellar and clearly are bought for some of the same attributes and some very differnet ones. Both brands have issues but its CLEAR Lexus by far has the least issues of any carmaker since its inception and for 2 decades.
No one can match that, period, end of discussion.
1. Someone says their Benz (German) car has issues
2. People post their thoughts, then the bad posts come in
-"my German car has never had any issues (only on the internet) and my Lexus was the worst car I owned
-"my Lexus never had an issue and my German car was a total POS (more likely but still exagerrated many times)
3. Personal bickering
4. Lexus is an appliance b/c it works and Germans have soul (b/c breaking down= soul I guess)
Again, I didn't raise an eyebrow at the OP's post and nor should anyone else. It should be expected. One year of FINALLY having above average cars (very commendable I will add) does not erase a decade and more of bad ones. We need to see long term reports on the new batch of cars. The S550 is STILL a superb vehicle.
Both brands are stellar and clearly are bought for some of the same attributes and some very differnet ones. Both brands have issues but its CLEAR Lexus by far has the least issues of any carmaker since its inception and for 2 decades.
No one can match that, period, end of discussion.
01-05-09, 03:55 PM
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Please let us all watch our tone. This thread is going its usual way
1. Someone says their Benz (German) car has issues
2. People post their thoughts, then the bad posts come in
-"my German car has never had any issues (only on the internet) and my Lexus was the worst car I owned
-"my Lexus never had an issue and my German car was a total POS (more likely but still exagerrated many times)
3. Personal bickering
4. Lexus is an appliance b/c it works and Germans have soul (b/c breaking down= soul I guess)
Again, I didn't raise an eyebrow at the OP's post and nor should anyone else. It should be expected. One year of FINALLY having above average cars (very commendable I will add) does not erase a decade and more of bad ones. We need to see long term reports on the new batch of cars. The S550 is STILL a superb vehicle.
Both brands are stellar and clearly are bought for some of the same attributes and some very differnet ones. Both brands have issues but its CLEAR Lexus by far has the least issues of any carmaker since its inception and for 2 decades.
No one can match that, period, end of discussion.
1. Someone says their Benz (German) car has issues
2. People post their thoughts, then the bad posts come in
-"my German car has never had any issues (only on the internet) and my Lexus was the worst car I owned
-"my Lexus never had an issue and my German car was a total POS (more likely but still exagerrated many times)
3. Personal bickering
4. Lexus is an appliance b/c it works and Germans have soul (b/c breaking down= soul I guess)
Again, I didn't raise an eyebrow at the OP's post and nor should anyone else. It should be expected. One year of FINALLY having above average cars (very commendable I will add) does not erase a decade and more of bad ones. We need to see long term reports on the new batch of cars. The S550 is STILL a superb vehicle.
Both brands are stellar and clearly are bought for some of the same attributes and some very differnet ones. Both brands have issues but its CLEAR Lexus by far has the least issues of any carmaker since its inception and for 2 decades.
No one can match that, period, end of discussion.
