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Old 01-07-09, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by IsraelRX
I don't think thats the case:

LEXUS Dec -32.4
BMW Dec -40.2%


Also Lexus approach to the entry luxury market is to have two models, BMW's is one model more configurations (engines and style).

ES + IS = 8,775
3-series = 8,490


More people bought small Lexuses than BMWs
The BMW 1 series is considered an entry-level model, too.
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Old 01-07-09, 11:57 AM
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That's a good point thurstonp.

1 + 3 series = 9,411
ES + IS series = 8,775
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This was something I posted up in the November Sales thread. This is a look at the mid-level luxury market since the Lincoln MKS and Hyundai Genesis have been released, but now updated with December sales numbers.

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      Genesis   MKS      M     GS     A6    S80    STS     RL  E-Class  5-Series
Dec.    1,040  2,100  1,194  1,200  1,218   959    907    245   3,464    3,699
Nov.    1,151  1,958  1,186    721    717   844    630    234   2,264    2,927
Oct.    1,121  2,072  1,193    819    758   424    632    272   2,098    3,958
Sep.    1,029  1,814  1,077    977  1,090   578    856    259   2,968    2,423
Aug.    1,177  2,374  1,221  1,686  1,520   576    975    316   2,681    5,287
July      619  2,279    970  1,297    929   745  1,079    532   4,938    4,525
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Old 01-07-09, 12:22 PM
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What percentage of those MKS sales are fleet/rental car sales?
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Old 01-07-09, 12:31 PM
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pretty amazing to see the big jump in the sales of GS, A6, and E. i didn't see specials on the GS? with those growth, i am a bit disappointed to see that the genesis stays about the same
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Originally Posted by rominl
pretty amazing to see the big jump in the sales of GS, A6, and E. i didn't see specials on the GS? with those growth, i am a bit disappointed to see that the genesis stays about the same
Don't know why the A6 and E had a big jump but Lexus had the annual December "event" so that explains why the GS. Those sales numbers further proved the statement I made last month about the identical sales trend (read: not numbers) of the A6 and GS, which I don't have an explanation for.
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Old 01-07-09, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by thurstonp
The BMW 1 series is considered an entry-level model, too.
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RX300-BV , thanks for the data.

We should note the Genesis and MKS have an asking MSRP way lower than anything else in that class. A loaded MKS pretty much starts where many of those models are especially in V-8 guise.

Everyone had a good jump (Holiday sales?) except the RL, which no one wants.
 
Old 01-07-09, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RX300-BV

Code:
           RL  
Dec.        245   
Nov.        234   
Oct.        272   
Sep.        259   
Aug.        316   
July         532
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

Everyone had a good jump (Holiday sales?) except the RL, which no one wants.

Oh boy, throwing a little fuel on the fire. The redesigned RL didnt reach dealerships until July or August. Right when sales tumbled from its already ridiculously low 532 models sold in July. Then the credit crisis hit etc etc.

Coincidence? Maybe, but doubtful. I'll let yall come to your own conclusions.

Kill Acura please. kthksbye
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Originally Posted by rominl
pretty amazing to see the big jump in the sales of GS, A6, and E. i didn't see specials on the GS? with those growth, i am a bit disappointed to see that the genesis stays about the same
not surprising to me. genesis is new vehicle, not as much special deals, not end of year deals, etc.

while there may not have been advertised specials on the GS, i have no doubt dealers were blowing out '08s and trying to have a good end of year number (with lots of incentives to do so).

genesis on the other hand, while promising, still isn't a huge part of hyundai sales, but impressively steady in this HORRIBLE market.
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saw a TL on the road today, and saw a bunch more on the Acura lot the other day.

to me it's not the ugliest thing i've ever seen, but um, no. please acura... make it stop.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
saw a TL on the road today, and saw a bunch more on the Acura lot the other day.

to me it's not the ugliest thing i've ever seen, but um, no. please acura... make it stop.
talk about the new acura, i really don't see a lot of them on the road. nothing like the previous TL or RL. the new TL i have probably only seen about 3-4 of them...
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talk about the new acura, i really don't see a lot of them on the road. nothing like the previous TL or RL. the new TL i have probably only seen about 3-4 of them...
I've only actually seen one new TL on the road, it was silver. It was hideous. I figure the owner thought silver hides the beak but the car looked like a giant random tool from Home Depot. Its disgusting. I closed my eyes and punched the gas so I wouldn't be forced to see anymore of it.

Amazingly I saw my first new RL on the road yesterday, silver too as the owner assumed it could again, hide the beak. The guy inside looked like he was bout 90. As soon as I passed it I messed around and looked in the rearview mirror and saw....

the front end.

I threw up right away, lost control of my car and nearly hit a tree. It should be illegal for such ugly vehicles to be on the road.
 
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Acura has a beak and boattail rear. Wowie.

Almost as bad as the past (just a few years ago) Subarus when they tried to do the Edsel nose on all their cars, what a lame flop that was.
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Old 01-08-09, 02:29 PM
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The new TLs are pretty bad. I have yet to see a refreshed RL on the road though. I have noticed a lot of new 08 TLs on the road though. I realize this is because they're probably discounting hard to make room for the 09s, but if that many people are going to the dealer and not being swayed by the 09s it is a reason for concern.
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January 9, 2009
Canada puts smiles on Toyota faces

By Keith Morgan, The Province
January 9, 2009


Toyota likely wishes its Canadian sales trends were universal -- then it wouldn't be recording its first worldwide loss since its formation.

Toyota Canada achieved its best-ever sales year in 2008: Canadians drove away in 224,158 Toyota and Lexus vehicles -- up 11.3 per cent from 2007, setting a second straight year of sales more than 200,000.

Toyota sales of 209,157 were up 11.3 per cent from 2007 and represent the first time the Toyota brand has sold more than 200,000 vehicles here in a single year, while also exceeding 2007 combined Lexus and Toyota sales of 201,326. Lexus sales of 15,001 vehicles were up 12 per cent versus 2007.

Among these sales numbers are some solid cars-made-in-Canada successes: 57,736 Toyota Corollas, up 42.6 per cent; 23,549 Toyota Matrix models, up 10.2 per cent; 20,522 Toyota RAV4s, up 25.7 per cent, and 4,841 Lexus RX 350s, up 28.9 per cent.

Hybrid sales were dramatic: 4,458 Toyota Prius liftbacks sold, up 72.5 per cent.

But that pales in comparison with the sale of 1,523 Toyota Highlander Hybrid crossovers, an amazing 159.9-per-cent rise, and 1,380 Lexus RX 400h luxury hybrid crossovers, up 51.8 per cent.
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