Has anyone been disappointed with the IS-F?
01-10-09 | 03:33 PM
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01-10-09 | 03:39 PM
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01-10-09 | 03:56 PM
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The IS F was obviously not the car you were looking for. If it had been, you would have ended up with an M3, a C63 AMG or a RS4 instead. To say you ended up with a G37 and state that the F lacked torque is flat out ridiculous. People that truly want a super sedan know that the four players are the 3 Germans and the F. I am not going to debate which of the four cars is "best", they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but the F is a solid competitor. Read the reviews of the F, it competes in all areas and brings the Lexus luxury and reliability as well.
To state that the F misses the mark in all areas, clearly shows that you have no understanding of a super sedan.
The CTS-V is an amazing car, but again in a totally different category. But lets wait and see how it holds up, reliability and dependability wise, before declaring it the second coming.
To state that the F misses the mark in all areas, clearly shows that you have no understanding of a super sedan.
The CTS-V is an amazing car, but again in a totally different category. But lets wait and see how it holds up, reliability and dependability wise, before declaring it the second coming.
Or am I just imagining things?
01-10-09 | 06:36 PM
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1SickLex..Did someone spike your kool-aid?
At race tracks. Not the most tested Toyota ever.
Meh! Latimes wrote that quote. So what. LaTimes is not Lexus...I will trust the Lexus site that it is the most race track test Lexus.....that is different than overall tested.
In fact, by the time testing was concluded, there'd never been a Toyota or a Lexus production car that had been so heavily tested at race tracks all around the world.
This car has been the most extensively tested machine not just in Lexus' history, but in the history of Toyota as a whole
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01-10-09 | 06:41 PM
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I went in for a test drive and had a check ready to pay cash. I was very disappointed with the car. It is tiny inside, rides like a truck, and has no low speed torque. I bought a G37 sedan and with the extra $27000 I plan to wait for next year's M50. Lexus missed the mark in all areas with the IS-F. The CTS-V is a good lesson on getting it right. The IS350 was a poor platform to start with and the -F execution made it even worse.
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01-10-09 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oldcajun
I went in for a test drive and had a check ready to pay cash. I was very disappointed with the car. It is tiny inside, rides like a truck, and has no low speed torque.
I went in for a test drive and had a check ready to pay cash. I was very disappointed with the car. It is tiny inside, rides like a truck, and has no low speed torque.
01-10-09 | 07:54 PM
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I strongly suggest reading and not posting or as ffpower said, maybe drive some.
Send me your address and I'll send you some back issues.
01-10-09 | 08:04 PM
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i pulled up to a light behind a Rousch fully tricked out (new) Mustang. rims, stance, everything looked good, EXCEPT the huge "510HP" on the hood. now THAT was ridiculous.
01-10-09 | 08:12 PM
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well, there must have been some huge mustang get together event in town here this weekend, because they were everywhere.
i pulled up to a light behind a Rousch fully tricked out (new) Mustang. rims, stance, everything looked good, EXCEPT the huge "510HP" on the hood. now THAT was ridiculous.
i pulled up to a light behind a Rousch fully tricked out (new) Mustang. rims, stance, everything looked good, EXCEPT the huge "510HP" on the hood. now THAT was ridiculous.
(Or, if they know the dangers, they go ahead and do it anyway).
01-10-09 | 08:56 PM
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The 335i chipped or not will never be in the same class as an M3 or IS F, regardless of all the chatter.
Big deal, you can chip a car and make it as fast or faster....it will still never have the overall complete package that the M of F has....lol.
01-10-09 | 09:00 PM
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well, there must have been some huge mustang get together event in town here this weekend, because they were everywhere.
i pulled up to a light behind a Rousch fully tricked out (new) Mustang. rims, stance, everything looked good, EXCEPT the huge "510HP" on the hood. now THAT was ridiculous.
i pulled up to a light behind a Rousch fully tricked out (new) Mustang. rims, stance, everything looked good, EXCEPT the huge "510HP" on the hood. now THAT was ridiculous.
http://jalopnik.com/cars/over-the-ba...000-265974.php
I wouldn't even step on the gas
....I'd just let it move on and save the embarassment....lol
01-10-09 | 09:06 PM
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01-10-09 | 09:23 PM
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and of all the articles, reviews, or even down to the everyday drivers i talk to, i mean those who are actually objective about things, they give a lot of props to the isf and agree for their first attempt, lexus did a fantastic job on the is-f against the m3. and yes, that includes bmw owners
there's "decent" handling and then there's "confidence inspiring" handling, a la bmw. The is/es/gs/ls are all rather light compared to any bmw, or even infiniti/audi. fact.
not counting is-f. By the way, that picture above of the two white cars makes the is-f look drop dead sexy.
not counting is-f. By the way, that picture above of the two white cars makes the is-f look drop dead sexy.
and your point is?? a civic if modded right can run 10s on 1/4 as well. a chipped 335i can be very fast, my friend's chipped 335 can outrun m3 or m5 on the straight any day. but even he thinks the m3 is a much better car, balanced and well packaged
01-11-09 | 04:06 AM
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i wonder why it's not and why it's impossible, especially the impossible part. even i wouldn't say it's impossible for acura to overtake lexus, just very hard. when you use such a strong word but fail to prove yourself, it doesn't look good on you
It was introduced at the beginning of 2008. Not it is 2009 and Cadillac has introduced the CTS-V that blows the IS-F out of the water as far a performance goes.
From Edmunds:
Frankly, we expected even better performance from such a good power-to-weight ratio
The intake howl sounds fantastic and makes the IS-F feel quicker than it really is.
This is rice burning at its best.
electric power assist (a 42V system) still cannot communicate as much information
about the contact patches of the front tires as other sport sedans we've driven.
BMW still has the best road feel. Period.
oversteer becomes the limiting factor. Credit the car's weight distribution of 54 percent front/46 percent rear
M3's have a perfect 50/50 weight weight distribution.
For all its displacement, technology and furious bark, the Lexus 5.0-liter doesn't make the IS-F much quicker than a BMW 335i, which makes 116 hp less.
No comment.
Bottom line. Car and Driver, Motor Trend, Edmunds, etc all rank the Is-F as a 2nd place finisher. The Is-f is not winning any awards or anything. Yes its got good 0-60, good skidpad, excellent braking, 54/46 weight distribution...but it is not 1st place.
Yes it sure is a nice a attempt...but is not 1st place.
my ranking
1. BMW M3
2. Audi RS4
3. Cadillac CTS-V
4. (tie) Lexus IS-f
4. (tie) Mercedes AMG.