Federal Vehicle Scrappage Program
01-09-09, 08:06 PM
#16
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i actually think this is an EXCELLENT idea. i'm not sure why you dislike the idea.
give people an incentive to get old clunkers off the road, and help the auto industry - why not?
Any REAL auto enthusiasts would be against this
01-09-09, 08:13 PM
#17
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The point is that adding this scrapping program doesn't change what already exists. You already could theoretically sell the car privately, donate it, or send it to a junkyard. What this program would have to do is make it monetarily MORE advantageous than existing programs. That's what I told them in Mexico City, to give a credit or something else, but they couldn't afford to do it.
Keep in mind since OBD2 came into being around the 1996 model year, the issues with emissions aren't as great as they once were. You have a lot more cleaner cars on the road and that's just going to get better over time with new technologies and also cleaner fuels. That's what I saw happen in Mexico City during my 6 years there, though it's going at a slower rate then other places on the planet because of the number of vehicles, geographic setting (it's in a u-shaped mountainous area), poor public transportation and the poverty level, but it's better now than at the turn of the century.
Keep in mind since OBD2 came into being around the 1996 model year, the issues with emissions aren't as great as they once were. You have a lot more cleaner cars on the road and that's just going to get better over time with new technologies and also cleaner fuels. That's what I saw happen in Mexico City during my 6 years there, though it's going at a slower rate then other places on the planet because of the number of vehicles, geographic setting (it's in a u-shaped mountainous area), poor public transportation and the poverty level, but it's better now than at the turn of the century.
01-09-09, 08:15 PM
#18
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No, they're not being forced to. The whole issue I think is whether we want our tax money going to buy the clunkers. I don't see a problem either, but I don't know how many customers they're going to get unless they make it more advantageous than what is already out there.
01-09-09, 10:47 PM
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(reads Pelosi behind it, sighs.......)
They are wasting valuable time and energy on this type of garbage bill (pun intended). This isn't going to spur crap. (pun intended)
They want to spur sales, LOWER TAXES or how about NO SALES TAX if you by an American vehicle.
Morons.
They are wasting valuable time and energy on this type of garbage bill (pun intended). This isn't going to spur crap. (pun intended)
They want to spur sales, LOWER TAXES or how about NO SALES TAX if you by an American vehicle.
Morons.
01-09-09, 11:19 PM
#20
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There is already a state program in Texas: http://www.driveacleanmachine.org/
Only people under a certain income level can get money for their polluters though... check the link
Only people under a certain income level can get money for their polluters though... check the link
01-10-09, 03:42 AM
#21
The idea behind this program is to promote the US auto industry.
Like everyone in America can run out and buy a new car to help the economy? We all wanna upgrade things in life...but reality puts normal people in check.
We'd all be posting on the Lambo and Ferrari forums if life were that easy.
- It's not my job to 'help' an auto maker: Make a good product and people will buy it.
- Theres already several PRIVATE business models that address the issue of any unwanted cars.
- This puts the government in direct competition with private business....
- Im not a fan of Big Gov.
- The impact on Auto restorations would be huge and drive prices up to where its not a hobby that anyone can enjoy.
On a personal level: I like going to the pick n pull
Theres a Big difference between a Lexus Fan and an Auto Enthusiast
Like everyone in America can run out and buy a new car to help the economy? We all wanna upgrade things in life...but reality puts normal people in check.
We'd all be posting on the Lambo and Ferrari forums if life were that easy.
- Theres already several PRIVATE business models that address the issue of any unwanted cars.
- This puts the government in direct competition with private business....
- Im not a fan of Big Gov.
- The impact on Auto restorations would be huge and drive prices up to where its not a hobby that anyone can enjoy.
On a personal level: I like going to the pick n pull
Theres a Big difference between a Lexus Fan and an Auto Enthusiast
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01-10-09, 11:38 AM
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01-10-09, 05:56 PM
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is this the same law where the gov't will give you $10,000 to buy a Domestic 3 car if you turn in your 10 year old + car? That we discussed back here: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...ar-owners.html
If so big deal, you must make under 25k a year to qualify. I'd still rather have a 10 year old civic than a brand new focus...
If so big deal, you must make under 25k a year to qualify. I'd still rather have a 10 year old civic than a brand new focus...
01-10-09, 06:00 PM
#24
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That is becoming more and more the case with some newer Ford and GM products....just as it was with Hyundai and Kia for several years, before people's eyes were opened.
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