The $96,000 Hyundai
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But I did just check and the GS never sold 36k/yr.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...04/205039.html
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...03/074293.html
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S class and equus side by side. it's huge!
-kinda bland, but i think it has a presence.
http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/da...onal&No=117080
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This car obviously has the stuff. All it lacks is status which, unfortunately, is almost everything for a car in this class. But it certainly looks very convincing and I think most of the world's automakers have to see Hyundai's latest products as a loud shot across the bow.
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agreed. i don't think hyundai should bring this as a hyundai. genesis is enough.
but if hyundai can launch genesis as a brand, than suddenly 50-58k Genesis Prestige(u.s name) is not a bad idea. that's still significantly cheaper than competitors.
but if hyundai can launch genesis as a brand, than suddenly 50-58k Genesis Prestige(u.s name) is not a bad idea. that's still significantly cheaper than competitors.
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The auto-makers are totally cognizant of the fact that US auto buyers tend to be more brand-aware than others - hence, Acura, Infiniti and until recently Lexus models being sold as Hondas, Nissans and Toyotas in Japan.
It's the same reason why Mercedes hasn't brought over the econobox A and B Class models to the States (they are afraid that it would ruin their "premium" image).
Yeah, it would - if (1) it were priced like the Phaeton ($70-100K+) and (2) was sold under a non-premium brand.
The original LS debuted at a $38k sticker price.
Take out the dealer profit and we are talking $32-33k.
Are you going to tell me that Toyota was able to spend as much as they did in R&D, not to mention build a dealer network, marketing a new brand, etc. and make their "typical" profit? (Not to mention all the costs associated w/ "at home" troubleshooting and/or loaner cars.)
The reason why the Genesis is priced the way it is is b/c Hyundai didn't have the costs associated w/ building a new brand - if they had done so, the Genesis would be priced $5-8K higher.
Simply introducing a 9 spd wouldn't necessarily be "innovative" - one can be much more innovative making significant improvements on an 8 spd.
As for safety standards - thanks for posting one model which has middling side-impact scores.
Maybe Toyota should have worked harder on safety 10 yrs ago on certain models.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=403
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=393
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=284
In 2006, Bose was 2nd to Sony in sales of audio equipment in the US.
Since Sony has been "sucking" in that dept., I think it's safe to say that Bose, unfortunately, is no.1 in the US.
Either way, Sony or Bose is the most popular in the US - and uhm, sorry, neither screams "quality" when it comes to audio.
According to the WSJ/JD Power - the Genesis was one of the models that was "hottest" off the lot for Feb.
Hottest Models - Feb 2009
MB - GLK 16 days on the lot
Smart Fortwo 26
Dodge Challenger 36
Audi A5/55 37
BMW X5 38
Mini Cooper 38
Prius 39
Honda Fit 39
GENESIS 45
Forester 46
MB - GLK 16 days on the lot
Smart Fortwo 26
Dodge Challenger 36
Audi A5/55 37
BMW X5 38
Mini Cooper 38
Prius 39
Honda Fit 39
GENESIS 45
Forester 46
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http://www.hyundai-blog.com/index.ph...all-its-glory/
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I like the exterior and it has the expensive looking flagship look even though it looks more like a mish mash of other luxury cars. The interior is good but not great. The rear looks much more upscale and nicer then the front and I like the power rear seats and center function/entertainment stack, why more lux cars don't offer this is beyond me. The front seat area design is a little boring and not as upscale looking as the rear, the center dash area just looks kind of plain and not fitting for such an expensive car. It is still a very good effort and I think would be great if the front seat area was better executed and had more of a Bentley/Audi A8 look.