View Poll Results: Paddle shifetrs VS 6 speed manual
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don't really care because I don't race my car
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Paddle shifters VS 6 speed manual
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I really dont like paddle shifters. (I drove an is-f) I could see usefull-ness of paddle shifters in a straight drag but in daily driving i hate them. You have to shift through every single gear to get into the gear you want. Why does this suck?
Simply put, i am driving on a street. Red light. I slow down, then i need to go again. In a manuel i can simply switch from 5th gear right into 2nd. In a paddle shift car, i have to shift like 4 times to get into the right gear and every downshift feels ackward since they arent gears i want to be him.
If you were driving in places where you only need to go 1 gear down or up at a time, i could see paddle shifters being useful. (like on a track where you want to slow down a bit but not to an almost halt) But in daily driving your better of not even using paddle shifts. which means essentially your driving an automatic.
BTW i hate how the is-f auto shifts for you and doesnt even allow you to get to the redline. Maybe their is a way to turn that off, but i didnt see it.
Simply put, i am driving on a street. Red light. I slow down, then i need to go again. In a manuel i can simply switch from 5th gear right into 2nd. In a paddle shift car, i have to shift like 4 times to get into the right gear and every downshift feels ackward since they arent gears i want to be him.
If you were driving in places where you only need to go 1 gear down or up at a time, i could see paddle shifters being useful. (like on a track where you want to slow down a bit but not to an almost halt) But in daily driving your better of not even using paddle shifts. which means essentially your driving an automatic.
BTW i hate how the is-f auto shifts for you and doesnt even allow you to get to the redline. Maybe their is a way to turn that off, but i didnt see it.
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Granted, for pure sports-minded individuals and for majority of the people of the car owners in Southern Europe, the stick shift is beloved and sacred to them.
However, as we progress further into the 21st century, technological advances in newer, more sophisticated gearboxes has made it clear that these new transmissions have reached the peak where they are now at par with the stick shift (and in some cases overpassed it).
You basically hit two birds with one stone, leave in auto mode for grandma and leave it to manual mode for your son during a weekend drive.
Hopefully, by around 2020, I project that the stick shift will start to disappear and based on the current trends & vehicle population, the number of stick shift vehicles on the roads by year 2020, the number would be BELOW 50%
However, as we progress further into the 21st century, technological advances in newer, more sophisticated gearboxes has made it clear that these new transmissions have reached the peak where they are now at par with the stick shift (and in some cases overpassed it).
You basically hit two birds with one stone, leave in auto mode for grandma and leave it to manual mode for your son during a weekend drive.
Hopefully, by around 2020, I project that the stick shift will start to disappear and based on the current trends & vehicle population, the number of stick shift vehicles on the roads by year 2020, the number would be BELOW 50%
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Right now, with me being young, I love the feel of driving a 3-pedal manual; and I would like to continue it for as long as possible.
When trying to teach my girlfriend to drive my SC300, she kept asking, "How do you concentrate so much on what gear you're in?". The simple answer is that I don't, it becomes second nature. Like anything else, it will eventually fall by the way-side, but even right now, most of my friends (sans the car enthusiast ones) don't even know how to work one. It makes me feel smarter than them.![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Basically put, I don't care if it's slower and less efficient than newer technology, I just like it.
When trying to teach my girlfriend to drive my SC300, she kept asking, "How do you concentrate so much on what gear you're in?". The simple answer is that I don't, it becomes second nature. Like anything else, it will eventually fall by the way-side, but even right now, most of my friends (sans the car enthusiast ones) don't even know how to work one. It makes me feel smarter than them.
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Basically put, I don't care if it's slower and less efficient than newer technology, I just like it.
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My daily will always be a auto and if it has shifters, I will never use them. On all my cars, I thry it out once and hate it and never use it again.
For my weekend car/sports car, it will always be a 3 pedal H gate (as stated above).
Sure paddles are like F1 and they can even go faster, etc, etc. However, nothing allows you the true interaction with the car and full on control like a standard. May be a personal preference, but it is one I will take to the grave, hopefully in a sports car on the way there ofcourse!
For my weekend car/sports car, it will always be a 3 pedal H gate (as stated above).
Sure paddles are like F1 and they can even go faster, etc, etc. However, nothing allows you the true interaction with the car and full on control like a standard. May be a personal preference, but it is one I will take to the grave, hopefully in a sports car on the way there ofcourse!
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Then again I do remember I had a friend who powershifted from 2nd to 1st instead of third... I guess maybe his 94 Cobra didn't have a lockout of 1st gear like I've always had, or else something was wrong with the lockout.
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Every manual car I've ever owned would not allow you to put the transmission into first unless you were doing under 6-7mph and even then they usually resisted you putting them into first until you were at a complete stop.
Then again I do remember I had a friend who powershifted from 2nd to 1st instead of third... I guess maybe his 94 Cobra didn't have a lockout of 1st gear like I've always had, or else something was wrong with the lockout.
Then again I do remember I had a friend who powershifted from 2nd to 1st instead of third... I guess maybe his 94 Cobra didn't have a lockout of 1st gear like I've always had, or else something was wrong with the lockout.
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Some automatics and computer-controlled manuals now automaticially blip the throttle for you to match engine and transmission/driveshaft speeds on downshifting to eliminate the jolts.
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Problem is, with first gear, you run out of RPMs quickly. And see my response to Threxx, above, about downshifting into first at not-low-enough speeds.
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Their is no such thing as paddle shifting on a weekend drive. If you try to use paddleshifts on the roads, you end up getting frustrated and just put the car in auto mode so you can actually stop n go.
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Oo thats weaks. I did it tonight at 25 MPH (not on purpose). But Marshall is right, you do run out of room. However, one of the annoyances of my dad's A6's Tiptronic was that you couldnt go into first gear if you wanted to. Very annoying. Nor could you decided when to shift from 1st to 2nd. So I don't understand why that is fund or an appropriate substitution for a conventional MT.
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Oo thats weaks. I did it tonight at 25 MPH (not on purpose). But Marshall is right, you do run out of room. However, one of the annoyances of my dad's A6's Tiptronic was that you couldnt go into first gear if you wanted to. Very annoying. Nor could you decided when to shift from 1st to 2nd. So I don't understand why that is fund or an appropriate substitution for a conventional MT.