2010 Hyundai Genesis V6 Twin Turbo? Any Ideas?

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02-06-09, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by YEH

Yeah, reliability, alone, is reason to purchase a car - bleh.

To some people, and probably more than you think, Reliability is the most critical aspect when deciding on a new car purchase.

02-06-09, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TJW98LS

Let's not get carried away...

How does THIS...

Look like either of THESE? (1989 BMW 5 Series)
I just don't see how they copied someone as much as everyone said they have.

The LS, particularly the 3rd gen LS430, totally cribbed the S-Class (esp. the greenhouse and c-pillar).

W/ the current LS430, one can see some styling cues from the 7 Series.

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Originally Posted by IS350jet

To some people, and probably more than you think, Reliability is the most critical aspect when deciding on a new car purchase.

True, but they tend to be people who buy "appliances" and aren't enthusiasts (as presumably most or all who post here are) who care about handling, driver feedback, etc.

Besides, there are enough choices in the market today where one can get reliability AND the things that enthusiasts enjoy.

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Originally Posted by ConceptVBS

This talk of "passion" in building cars is pure marketing lingo. Unless you are actually part of the development team, as a consumer you wont know what goes on behind the doors of these companies. You say certain companies have a passion of building cars, like it is some kind of art. It's the job of the marketers to make people want the car by injecting the catch phrases like "passion", "state of the art", "technology", "perfection" in your subconscious. It's an elaborate scheme of bringing out an emotional connection to a brand. This is what you typically see in "automotive fans".

At the end of the day, it is a business, a car business. Shareholders, profits, quarters, dividends all make the bottom line. They would not be building cars, if they did'nt make money. Simple as that.

True - it's the same reason why "lux" makes such as Mercedes or Lexus don't advertise their sales as sales or clearances and instead, refer to them as "the Summer Event" or some other advertising lingo - but basically, it's all the same.

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Originally Posted by gshb

one day they say lets attack the 5/E/GS and build a car. they have the know how, no doubt. then they say lets attack the performance coupe? are they just following where the money is? thats not passion.

I seem to recall that's what Toyota, er, Lexus did w/ the S Class (attacked by the LS), the 5 Series (attacked by the GS) and the 3 Series (attacked by the IS) - lol.

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Originally Posted by gshb

one people want to know that their car has hand sanded paint jobs. they want to know that the technology in it came from racing experience. that someone with a microphone was measuring how loud the engine is or that their talent creates innovation.

Get real - do you think the average auto consumer knows or even cares about this stuff?

And how do you know that Hyundai didn't do this?

(If you knew anything that went into developing the Genesis, they did).

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Originally Posted by gshb

it doesnt matter what your badge is. people can see, especially people like us on forums, where thought was put in. like how mizuno never gave in to say this is good enough. or toyota when creating not just a new brand or new car, but a new way to build them, to service them, and to sell them.

Hmmm - let's see, Hyundai delayed the shipping of the Genesis in white since they weren't satisfied w/ how the white paint matched on metal and plastic.

Hyundai is only one of 4 auto makers to design and build in-house their own 6 spd auto tranny - the others are Toyota and GM/Ford thru a joint-venture.

The Hyundai 6 spd tranny reportedly has a no. of advancements (and Hyundai has an 8 spd tranny in the works).

http://jalopnik.com/5116412/hyundais...ts-azera-first

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Originally Posted by gshb

the genesis could be a nice car, but the way hyundai treats it is same as they would the santa fe or elantra. like their azera commercials trumpetingmore interior room than a bmw 7 series! thats not why the 7 series sells. call it marketing if you want, but it matters. luxury cars arent (or shouldnt) be built with cost in mind. thats what commodity cars are for. and thats the appeal of luxury. they are built with you in mind. your wants. your needs. not just a box with wheels taking you to places for as little as possible.

Uhh, the 7 Series sells b/c it has more rear passenger room than the 5 or 3 Series.

And Hyundai is hardly the only auto manufacturer to make comparisons w/ the lux makes (it's called smart marketing).

Ford Edge commercials -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QNNdb3O2WE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbN0aaI87M8

Last edited by YEH; 02-06-09 at 11:07 PM.