GFerg

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...ncepts/238530/

dunnojack

i wonder how it's gonna look.

launching this september, and no spy pics yet ?????

I8ABMR

Lets see what the Lexus response will be. I think what Infiniti needs to work on is the reliability and customer service. There is good customer service, then there is Lexus customer service

ren495

the M is already kicking lexus in the *****. outsold the GS by 2:1 last month.

encore888

Good to hear that the M will add a hybrid option, should improve fuel efficiency to say the least.

...and "all Infinitis will be hybrids within 10 years" is interesting, and quite an about-face from Renault/Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn's statement that "hybrids are a terrible business prospect" in 2005.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...hybrids_a.html

Pretty good to see Infiniti also decide to match Lexus' goal of having an all-hybrid lineup.

dunnojack

that was one month.

let's see if a trend continues


if the M is new for 2010, it could mean bad news for the GS.
If nissan does a good job on exterior styling, it could kill GS sales.

knihc2008

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Indeed. The current M is not a new design by any means either and it still manages to outsell the GS. Infiniti is building up some great momentum with the G cars, the FX (which some say is ugly, I say it's nice) and that Essence... the next M will definitely be something to be reckoned with!

VIP_ES300

cant wait to see the new M!

dunnojack

of the M looks anything similar to the Essence, I may have to get rid of my GS.....

Bean

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The M came out several YEARS after the 3GS did. And it IS a new design compared to the 3GS; it looks very much more modern. The 3GS is very conservative (I dont know why Lexus went that direction, especially since the 2GS was considered a great looking vehicle in 1998).

Guys, don't spout off numbers like the M is successful or anything just because it outsells the hated rival car (which is already doing extremely poorly). The rival company isnt even paying attention to that car. For that matter, I've still never EVER seen an M45. All of them are M35s and they are extremely rare. I don't know where Infiniti is selling those cars, but its not down here.

shyguy16

GS came out in 2005, M came out in 2006 so only a year between the 2, not years. the amazing feat is that the M is outselling the GS with a smaller dealer network, less cachet in the infinity name, and poorer customer service.
i'm sure much of this has to do with more aggressive deals and pricing.

dunnojack

i assumed it was the incentives.

but i don't know what incentives they had last month.


nevermind. infiniti has a fat 0.9% apr financing for 72 months on the M35/45

shyguy16

that and the GS is sqeezed between the larger, more comfy ES at a lower price point, and a smaller but sportier IS.
that can't help its cause.

R1R

The new E-Class, 5-Series, and M will all be landing in the U.S. at around the same time.

This is going to be pretty exciting.

UDel

I would say the great reviews the M gets, more interior room then most of competition, closest to BMW handling/feedback, and it being one of the highest rated and favorites in Consumer reports helps also with the Ms surprising sales. It is even more amazing because the Infiniti M pretty much had zero name recognition where the last Lexus GS was fairly popular.

The 3rd gen GS has a few strikes against it to explain its mediocre sales and often lagging behind the M like the Lexus ES350 which I am sure steals alot of sales from the GS where Infiniti does not have a car between the G and M like Lexus has between the IS and GS. The GS orginal 3 liter v6 was pretty weak and underpowered for the first few years compared to the M v6 which was larger and much more powerful. The GS430 did not have any more power then the last GS430 and was really no quicker with the extra gear. The GS is not exactly a good looking car and many say looks like a Nissan Altima/last Maxima(which came out 2 years BEFORE the Lexus GS) and it has that ugly rear end, the last Gen GS is generally agreed to look much nicer. The interior has seemed to shrink in the GS and headroom is poor in the new GS which has turned off many buyers. The 3rd Gen GS has had many quality/rattle/squeaking issues and a version was put on the not recommended list by consumer reports which is really bad. All these things add up.

As for Infiniti offering hybrids, it is a great idea especially since the VQ is a know gas guzzler and there is nothing even remotely fuel efficient in the Infiniti lineup. I can't wait to see the next M and I think it is going to be a fantastic car and be major competiton for all its competition. I have been very impressed by the Ms I have driven and sat in and will highly consider a used one for my next car.