Hyundai CEO: Genesis Coupe Sales Are "Smoking," 3.8 GT is Volume Leader
03-18-09, 03:54 PM
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it's only a matter of time before hyundai overtakes toyota.
but it still has a long long way to go.
look at samsung. they've pretty much caught up or surpassed sony in many departments.
but it still has a long long way to go.
look at samsung. they've pretty much caught up or surpassed sony in many departments.
03-18-09, 04:52 PM
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03-18-09, 05:48 PM
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That doesn't make sense to me. It already sits low enough, and has a firm, responsive enough chassis, that the handling and steering response is already superb. Too much of a good thing will only make the ride unduly stiff (it is fairly stiff now), and mess up the undercarriage going over humps, bumps, etc..... It could (?) also nullify parts of Hyundai's superb warranty.
03-18-09, 05:52 PM
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The interior? Yes, it could be improved some, particularly in trim and door-panel layout, but, even so, I have seen far worse.
03-18-09, 07:39 PM
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i'm predicting a huge hit, about 2000 gen coupe a month when we start seeing enough 4 bangers in the lot. right now, 4banger turbos are nowhere to be found. my local dealer still have only 1 v6 touring in the showroom. still haven't test drive one. i'm so sick of waiting.
03-18-09, 09:53 PM
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loaded accord coupe, altima coupe, solara coupe = all over 30k
and dude, stop hating and just go drive one before you make a stupid hatorade comment. i don't know what you drive, but i hate stuck up hater like you.
03-18-09, 11:11 PM
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Why does it need a drop? That doesn't make sense to me. It already sits low enough, and has a firm, responsive enough chassis, that the handling and steering response is already superb. Too much of a good thing will only make the ride unduly stiff (it is fairly stiff now), and mess up the undercarriage going over humps, bumps, etc..... It could (?) also nullify parts of Hyundai's superb warranty.
That doesn't make sense to me. It already sits low enough, and has a firm, responsive enough chassis, that the handling and steering response is already superb. Too much of a good thing will only make the ride unduly stiff (it is fairly stiff now), and mess up the undercarriage going over humps, bumps, etc..... It could (?) also nullify parts of Hyundai's superb warranty.Dropping a car usually involves upgrading the suspension components, which is always a good thing. But the only trade off is a little practicality since it will be stiffer and lower.
It is a trade off a lot of enthusiasts are willing to take.
Cars like the G37S, 370Z, Gen Coupe, RX8, S2000 (I've driven all of those except the Gen Coupe) etc, etc don't have stiff suspensions and have a good amount of clearance from factory. It's not like they're GT3's or Z06's
03-19-09, 05:57 AM
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Just out of curiosity, have you tracked both cars? I don't see how anyone could make that assumption without taking these cars to the road course/circuit track/ AutoX. Or at least some spirited driving around some local canyon roads.
And in the comparos, I don't think I have heard anyone state this.
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And in the comparos, I don't think I have heard anyone state this.
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My reviews generally give a detailed, thorough description of what the car is like from stem to stern, and what you get for your money.....which is what most people are interested in. For max track figures, it is better to consult a review like Road & Track or Car & Driver.
However, even in non-track conditions, it was obvious, to me at least, that the 3.8 Track Genesis Coupe had better reflexes and power than the G37 coupe. It was simply a sportier and more driver-centered vehicle.
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03-19-09, 07:09 AM
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No. My reviews are done on the street, as that is the way most cars are driven, most of the time. But I do accelerate, brake, and steer/corner hard enough to get a good idea of what the car can do....otherwise I wouldn't waste time writing them up. And I look for some twisty roads whenever possible. But, as most of the cars I review are brand-new and not broken-in, I don't red-line the engine or slam on the brakes full-force. I stop a little short of that.
My reviews generally give a detailed, thorough description of what the car is like from stem to stern, and what you get for your money.....which is what most people are interested in. For max track figures, it is better to consult a review like Road & Track or Car & Driver.
However, even in non-track conditions, it was obvious, to me at least, that the 3.8 Track Genesis Coupe had better reflexes and power than the G37 coupe. It was simply a sportier and more driver-centered vehicle.
My reviews generally give a detailed, thorough description of what the car is like from stem to stern, and what you get for your money.....which is what most people are interested in. For max track figures, it is better to consult a review like Road & Track or Car & Driver.
However, even in non-track conditions, it was obvious, to me at least, that the 3.8 Track Genesis Coupe had better reflexes and power than the G37 coupe. It was simply a sportier and more driver-centered vehicle.
LMAO..... Marshall, I agree with you 100%. I am in my 40's and have never considered "tracking" a car as a consideration prior to purchase.
IMO most people consider real world driving characteristics not how a sports coupe perfoms on a track.
This car is a WINNER. Drive it, review it with an unbiased opinion of Hyundai. 
Yes, it would be nice if the badge said Toyota, Nissan, Honda however it is a Hyundai and does require one to look beyond brand recognition.Personally it has the best bang for the buck out there in a 4 seat coupe and the car looks and drives phenominally well.
03-19-09, 09:52 AM
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a true beauty will look good in non-black colors.
it's ugly if you have to hide the character lines with dark colors.
all you see is a silouette in the end.
i agree with OLT that it's lipstick on a pig. i don't care how it drives.
but that's just my opinion.
it's ugly if you have to hide the character lines with dark colors.
all you see is a silouette in the end.
i agree with OLT that it's lipstick on a pig. i don't care how it drives.
but that's just my opinion.
03-19-09, 10:16 AM
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mmarshall, I know you are a highly reputable source for car reviews. I know you are highly experienced in this and have great knowledge. You are also very neutral, not biased to some manufacturer/ models. That's why we trust you even more.
What i'm trying to say is, you are the professional. That's the bottom line...
What i'm trying to say is, you are the professional. That's the bottom line...
Mike (1SICKLEX) also does some good reviews.
03-19-09, 03:25 PM
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looks good in many colors. even in pink