pagemaster

I agree. The big problem with the current LS460 is that it lacks any sense of elegance. Where the LS430 had elegance written all over it. The LS430 did not lead with hp or tq, rear seat leg room etc. It lead with refinement and elegance.

Lack of any sense of elegance or being trendy is what the Lexus lineup or cars is.

I will give Lexus credit, their Suvs lead the pack.

Fizzboy7

I agree the new Maxima is improved over the old one, but compared to some interiors by Lexus and Audi, it follows. There's still room for improvement.

FKL

man the a8/s8 is one beautiful car. unparalleled even. Just the right hint of arrogance with timless styling. I cannot say the same thing for the lexus ls, which is just a mix of corporate toyota lines. same holds true for the interior. The wood is tacky and overdone and the layout is too close to that of lower Lexus models. There's just no real old world elegance in the current product. This doesn't matter on the GS (which I think gets unfairly treated, it's a beautiful car) and IS, but in this class, the styling at least doesn't lend itself as a credible competitor to the a8.




there is such a thing as amg-overdone...



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the current a8 styling is beautiful. I just don't know what else to say. It blends form, art, and time like no large sedan I've really seen outside of a RR/Bentley.

I8ABMR

yes the maxima is a nice looking sedan, but its far from exotic. The LS460 ****s on the maxima, and yes I bought my lexus because it has a much better reputation than infiniti ( amongst other things). To each his own but I am sticking with my over priced Lexus and overpriced G37 over the Genesis

Sens4Miles

Well, except that the Maxima does not compete with models by Lexus or Audi. That's why we have Infiniti. If the Maxima is even being mentioned alongside models from luxury brands, then Nissan is obviously doing something right with their flagship.

Fizzboy7

Couldnt' agree more. The A8 is stately, clean, modern, and artistic. It doesn't need fru-fru lines and bling body jewlry like the BMW and Mercedes to make it's presence felt. Cars like that make people think, "dang... who's inside that thing?"

STIG

I agree with you. S8 is one of the most beautiful large sedans you can buy today.

And OP is on crack.

nthach

The OP's a VAG fanboy. When I think VW, I think Roxy-stickered Jettas, not luxury cars.

ffpowerLN

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WTF? Seriously...

ffpowerLN

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Oh yeah? Let's try that again...




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WTF? Seriously...

The point is that you VW/Audi fanboys feel free to call the LS a XL-Camry but when other people start calling the A8 as a XL-Passat, DON'T B***H!

nthach

nein. THIS is a true German car, not a inspiration for Honda:

FKL

No, you have no point. This statement doesn't even make any logical sense and sounds like an angry rant more than anything. The fact that all this makes you so "angry" is beyond anything I can comprehend. It's just a discussion forum for cars, I'm not insulting your mother.

If you want to discuss this, the comparison of the styling of a fifth generation Passat designed in 1996 to the current Audi A8 is pretty baseless. Notice I never labeled the LS as a bloated Camry, so perhaps I am owed an apology.

again, I see no comparison, though I know in reality you know there's none either (just as there isn't any real one between a Camry / LS). Trying to make either argument is simply a cheap shot.

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OK guys, this thread seems to have run its course. I expect that the replies are everything the OP hoped for based on his wording of the starting post and subsequent replies.