Future of ZR1 & GM
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First of all, this is STRICTLY opinion coming from my GM dealership General Manager et al. BUT the guy does have 20+years w/ GM, predicted Camaro WOULD come to market and sells the second highest volume of Corvettes for any dealer in the US. In my conversation(s) with he and others this morning:
1. ZR-1 prices are NOT coming down, still $140K-$150K... because...
2. It is a collector's item... BO is almost certain to kill it shortly
3. Corvette WILL remain but drastically different.. can you say V-6?![EEK!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/eek1.gif)
3. GM WILL go into Chapter 11
4. "Large" dealerships will operate as same, whether sales or service
5. They got KILLED in March on sales
6. Rick HAD to go, but was done VERY poorly
7. NO plans to build 2010 ZR-1
8. 669 2009 ZR-1s have been built, unknown if remaining 331 will EVER be built
All in all, about what I expected, just more confirmation and expectations, albeit better placed...
1. ZR-1 prices are NOT coming down, still $140K-$150K... because...
2. It is a collector's item... BO is almost certain to kill it shortly
3. Corvette WILL remain but drastically different.. can you say V-6?
![EEK!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/eek1.gif)
3. GM WILL go into Chapter 11
4. "Large" dealerships will operate as same, whether sales or service
5. They got KILLED in March on sales
6. Rick HAD to go, but was done VERY poorly
7. NO plans to build 2010 ZR-1
8. 669 2009 ZR-1s have been built, unknown if remaining 331 will EVER be built
All in all, about what I expected, just more confirmation and expectations, albeit better placed...
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I think Corvette should retain its V8, but a smaller V8 could get the job done. A well engineered 5.0L could reduce fuel consumption without sacraficing the elements that make a Corvette a Corvette.
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For the power that they put out, LSx are not gas guzzlers. GM is not in this position b/c Corvette is/was not more fuel efficient. Leave the Corvettes alone. It's one of the cars that GM make that people actually will buy even without stupid employee discounts. It's gonna be more costly - and frankly GM doesn't have any money left - to design/engineer smaller displacement V8 vs leaving current LSx engines where they belong. Now go fix the executive compensation/bonuses, union contracts, and discounts to bond/preferred shareholders.
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The Z06 is in a league of its own as far as under $100K sports cars are concerned and driving/owning one is simply marvelous! [Eh hem...DAWG]
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I was wondering about the collectability of the ZR-1.. Sounds like the value of the car has only one way to go. especially with under 1k being built. Sounds like the American Enzo formula.
If you check out Jay Leno's garage online, he claims to have chasis # 00001. So it sounds like he may have made a very good use of his connections to get his ZR-1.
If you check out Jay Leno's garage online, he claims to have chasis # 00001. So it sounds like he may have made a very good use of his connections to get his ZR-1.
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I was wondering about the collectability of the ZR-1.. Sounds like the value of the car has only one way to go. especially with under 1k being built. Sounds like the American Enzo formula.
If you check out Jay Leno's garage online, he claims to have chasis # 00001. So it sounds like he may have made a very good use of his connections to get his ZR-1.
If you check out Jay Leno's garage online, he claims to have chasis # 00001. So it sounds like he may have made a very good use of his connections to get his ZR-1.
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buy your C6 / Z06 / ZR1 now!! the warranty will be covered no matter what happens to GM, so what do you have to lose (except about $50K+). Dealers are taking $10K off 1LT's and $13K off Z06's.
I don't know how long I'll be able to keep mine (hopefully forever!), but it is the best driving/handling/quickest/most fun car I've ever owned.
I don't know how long I'll be able to keep mine (hopefully forever!), but it is the best driving/handling/quickest/most fun car I've ever owned.
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For the power that they put out, LSx are not gas guzzlers. GM is not in this position b/c Corvette is/was not more fuel efficient. Leave the Corvettes alone. It's one of the cars that GM make that people actually will buy even without stupid employee discounts. It's gonna be more costly - and frankly GM doesn't have any money left - to design/engineer smaller displacement V8 vs leaving current LSx engines where they belong. Now go fix the executive compensation/bonuses, union contracts, and discounts to bond/preferred shareholders.
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Like it or not they have been discussing plans to reduce the size of the Corvette engines as it will benefit other vehicles, the CTS-V for example. Just because it is smaller it doesn't mean it will be less potent. Furthermore, GM already said that they plan to reduce the weight of the Corvette. Where you take it from I don't know. But more power to them for doing so.
I'm all for a more lean vette
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I would even go for a GS450h type drivetrain.
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